Nikola Goddamn Tesla

[Elder Iptuous]

Why, Clark was the cartographer, without whom the expedition would have been pointless.
furthermore he managed the logistics, and led all the hunting expeditions.

Lewis on the other hand, was a Welshman.

[Doktor Howl]

I think we should really push a Lewis v. Clark debate meme...
believable and vitriolic.

I heard that Lewis was a douche, and that the only reason they were able to retain navigators and porters at all is because Clark would give them extra money and food behind Lewis' back.

Clark stomped on chipmunks whenever they stopped.  It pissed off the porters.

[Doktor Howl]

Lewis on the other hand, was a Welshman.

LIES!   

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Plus, his name was "Meriwether".

[Doktor Howl]

Plus, his name was "Meriwether".

SEE!  He was a HOBBIT.  Not a Welshman.

The difference, you ask?  Hobbits don't wear shoes because their feet are too big.  Welshman don't wear shoes because they have talons on the ends of their toes.

[East Coast Hustle]

Forgive me, but did Edison actually electrocute a dog?

Because it doesn't matter if he's the nicest fucking dude who invented all of the modern world, if he electrocuted a fucking dog, I'll start hero worshiping Tesla just as a fuck you to the other guy's memory.

I don't think anybody's nominating him as a great humanitarian, so what's your point?

From everything I've read, Edison actually was kind of a huge fucking dick.

Either suck it up and go on liking him, or don't, but complaining about people thinking Tesla is awesome isn't going to change the fact that Edison was a giant fucking dick. OR the fact that he also introduced a ton of technological advancement (whether he invented it himself or just developed other people's ideas).

The fact that Edison was a fucking insufferable twat who treated people and animals like utter shit is a matter of history. So fucking what?

"So fucking what?" is kind of my point. And I missed the part where I was complaining about people thinking Tesla was awesome. Which would be really weird of me to do in the first place, since I think Tesla was awesome. I'm just pointing out the false dichotomy in people choosing "sides" when both men were brilliant in different ways and both men, ultimately, pushed humanity forward. Their personalities are so irrelevant that it's absurd that people keep bringing it up.

but, y'know, never mind what I've actually said, you've been on a kick to put words in my mouth ever since I opined about the open bar thread and PD turning into facebook for weirdos, so don't let facts get in the way of your agenda.

[Doktor Howl]

but, y'know, never mind what I've actually said, you've been on a kick to put words in my mouth ever since I opined about the open bar thread and PD turning into facebook for weirdos, so don't let facts get in the way of your agenda.

We should probably all stop and take a breath, now.

Just saying.

[East Coast Hustle]

Fuck that shit. I'm sick of being told that somehow I shouldn't have an opinion about what PD should or shouldn't be because it's wrong for me to have opinions about my website. And I'm also sick of keeping my mouth shut about shit like that for the sake of keeping the peace. Don't get me wrong, Nigel is my friend both here and IRL and some internet squabble doesn't change that, but it also doesn't mean I'm not gonna call bullshit when I see it.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Just like me, if you have and voice strong opinions, you kind of have to get used to people arguing with you about them.

The only way to avoid it is to SHUT UP.

Are you going to SHUT UP?

Good, because I'm not either.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Edison was a douche, and you appear to have a problem with a comic that points it out with exaggeratedly strong wording.

But he WAS a douche, and it IS a comic. I mean, srsly, wha?

[Eater of Clowns]

Oh, then there's the whole thing about how closing Open Bar and your threat to do the same with any further instances of it is precisely the kind of censorship that this site rails against.  But hey, this is GOOD censorship because Open Bar isn't quality content, so it's okay right?

[Triple Zero]

You know right now, Tesla is spinning in his grave??




I mean, not because of this thread but they buried him near a magnetic field.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

but, y'know, never mind what I've actually said, you've been on a kick to put words in my mouth ever since I opined about the open bar thread and PD turning into facebook for weirdos, so don't let facts get in the way of your agenda.

Somehow I didn't notice this part when I replied the first time, but I'd like to take this opportunity to say that no, actually I haven't. At all. And I don't know why you think I have, because A. I've hardly been around, B. you've hardly been around, C. I rarely pay attention to who I'm responding to unless it's someone I expressly wish to avoid, and D. that was forever ago, I barely remember it, and it's irrelevant to this conversation.

I think you are VASTLY underestimating how scatter-brained I am. I can't even remember to pick on my ENEMIES, (or for that matter, who they are exactly) unless they remind me, let alone hold a grudge against a friend for disagreeing with me about something unimportant. Christ, it's a fucking miracle that I remember to put on pants before I leave the house.

[AFK]

You know right now, Tesla is spinning in his grave??




I mean, not because of this thread but they buried him near a magnetic field.

You really have to watch the re-coil. 

[AFK]

Also, I am further superficially basing my preference for Tesla on the fact that Cracked, the best internet site ever, has a hard-on for him and a hard-on for hating Edison. 

http://www.cracked.com/article_16072_5-famous-inventors-who-stole-their-big-idea.html