Help twid pick a second job

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

If they try to do it "intuitively" or "psychically", yeah, they have no choice but to use cheats.

If you use something with a rigid structure and a lot of rules, like the ones I mentioned, and just read them in the context of the question, it'll hit more often than not. I'm sure there's illusions involved. Whatever the fuck it is, I don't have to make stuff up, so it doesn't feel all creepy/slimey. 

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

But I know what you mean. I got a $300 bonus once for a 45 minute reading. Sometimes things are slow as fuck though. Just like music.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Yep. Problem is is that musics the only thing i want to do but it only that lucrative rarely for you average joe.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

People like us tend to do best when everybody's got money. Tax return time is usually jumping...this year sucked compared to last year, though.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Bostonians dont go see live shows unless youre famous or they know you personally. Bostonians kinda suck like that.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

No more bar band stuff going on? 

I think the first time I saw karaoke was in Peabody (PEE BUDDY). I remember saying "Thank FUCK this will never catch on." 

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Not really. I mean shows are still good for a bar. It still draws people in. But building an audience is hard and ive heard this from a lot of bands- someone will come up to them and say they were great but never bother to come to another one of their shows. Karaoke however always brings people in. And three drunk college girls always do dont stop believing. Always. Its the reality show mentality i think.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

I mean it allows anyone to be the center of attention for five minutes without needing any skill practice creativity or originality. I wont lie. Its fun. Especially when you find shit like danzig or megadeth and all the girls look at you and scrunch up in the "eau magawd. What ehz thess?" face or even better if theyre drunk enough to come up and air guitar. But when it comes down to it its like a bunch of people watching each other take turns masturbating.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Bars generally suck once you've split the take anyway. It's a public service for us people at the bar who NEVER EVER want to see a 400 lb beerheart in an Axl bandana pretending to be Jim Morrison, or some old boot in a miniskirt "singing" Purple Rain while waving her hand in the air like she's at an evangelical megachurch. 

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Theres this one regular at the auld sod in dedham (which consistently pays live acts well) who is quite fond of doing lola.  Shes bloody terrible at it.

[Triple Zero]

If you really want to learn cards, Twid, chuck the Tarot and do playing cards or Lenormand. Only 52 or 36 (respectively) to remember and you don't get all that philosophical stuff when somebody's trying to find out "WHY HASN'T HE CALLED MEEEEEE IS HE CHEEEEEEATING WHO MY BABY DADDY?????"

I don't quite understand? Regular playing cards have a fairly straight correspondence to the Minor Arcana (except you need to fudge the Knight and Page into one Jack), but Tarot cards are easier to interpret and draw extra significances from because they have pictures. So I'd say the playing cards would require more memorization than Tarot? I mean it's pretty easy once you've decided (yes, decided) which playing card suits correspond to which tarot suits (and elements, and any correspondence of four) and if you've studied the Sefiroth a bit (there's 10 of em and they do tend to line up roughly with the numbers in the Minor Arcana) combining those works wonders, but it's still just one trick while the Tarot cards have tens of tiny bits of symbolism worked in all the pictures (fucking Page of Cups with his fish ... WHY DO YOU HAVE A FISH IN YOUR CUP IT MAKES NO SENSE ).

And what do you mean with the philosophical stuff? I'm curious, you don't have to interpret Tarot with deep philosophical stuff if the question doesn't lend itself to it?

I never heard of Lenormand, btw. Do you have a link or should I just Wikipedia it? Divination techniques intrigue me.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Ship that one down here, Twid, and I'll send you the guy with a dent in his forehead who does "Ace of Spades" and the woman who does nothing but country songs about doing sadistic things to cheating boyfriends, who is someday going to end up on the six o'clock news if we don't ship her to a state with gun control.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

If you really want to learn cards, Twid, chuck the Tarot and do playing cards or Lenormand. Only 52 or 36 (respectively) to remember and you don't get all that philosophical stuff when somebody's trying to find out "WHY HASN'T HE CALLED MEEEEEE IS HE CHEEEEEEATING WHO MY BABY DADDY?????"

I don't quite understand? Regular playing cards have a fairly straight correspondence to the Minor Arcana (except you need to fudge the Knight and Page into one Jack), but Tarot cards are easier to interpret and draw extra significances from because they have pictures. So I'd say the playing cards would require more memorization than Tarot?

It's the busy-ness of Tarot that runs things off the rails. Too many choices in the interpretation.

With playing cards you have a pretty straight meaning, like the Ace of Spades being bad. In Tarot you can read the Ace of Swords as anything from the beginning of a conflict to divine inspiration.

I mean it's pretty easy once you've decided (yes, decided) which playing card suits correspond to which tarot suits (and elements, and any correspondence of four) and if you've studied the Sefiroth a bit (there's 10 of em and they do tend to line up roughly with the numbers in the Minor Arcana) combining those works wonders, but it's still just one trick while the Tarot cards have tens of tiny bits of symbolism worked in all the pictures (fucking Page of Cups with his fish ... WHY DO YOU HAVE A FISH IN YOUR CUP IT MAKES NO SENSE ).

I think Eden Gray said the fish was an idea. It's still stupid.

With playing cards, you don't worry about Sephiroth, elemental dignities, or any of that. It's pretty straightforward number and suit, sometimes with the pattern the spots make, like the 6's resembling a path.

And what do you mean with the philosophical stuff? I'm curious, you don't have to interpret Tarot with deep philosophical stuff if the question doesn't lend itself to it?

No, you don't have to, but sometimes it's still hard to get a concrete answer out of it. For me, anyway.
People tend to want love, money and gossip. Tarot tends to be high-minded.

I never heard of Lenormand, btw. Do you have a link or should I just Wikipedia it? Divination techniques intrigue me.

Lenormand is awesome, I hardly touch anything else since I started using it. The cards have a single image, like a Dog, House, or whatever, and a playing card inset that everybody ignores unless it's a face card. Then it can represent a person, even if the card image is Lilies or Crossroads.
http://web.archive.org/web/20080914115850/http://36cards.wordpress.com/lenormand-card-meanings/

You read it by combinations and context. I'm surprised you don't know it, there's a whole Dutch school of Lenormand. Their meanings are slightly different, they use the Moon for a "work" card (I use the Anchor).

It comes from a German game called "The Game of Hope", btw, not Mlle. Lenormand.
http://www.britishmuseum.org/research/search_the_collection_database/search_object_details.aspx?objectid=3145089&partid=1&output=Terms%2F%21%21%2FOR%2F%21%21%2F1516%2F%21%2F%2F%21%2Fletterpress%2F%21%2F%2F%21%21%2F%2F%21%21%21%2F&orig=%2Fresearch%2Fsearch_the_collection_database%2Fadvanced_search.aspx&currentPage=3&numpages=10

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Just wanted to add that you can read playing cards the same as Tarot minors. It's just that traditional cartomancy is simpler.