EVEN MOAR NORWAY!

[Nephew Twiddleton]

I forget wich bit it was in but ill dig it up when i get home.

In the united states the kingdom of norway is considered a failed socialist state that is barely functioning and everyone has no money due to exorbitant taxes that no one wants a non functioning healthcare system and a low quality of life despite all evidence to the contrary. At least if you describe yourself as conservative. They always say that whenever you bring up any scandinavian country successfully creating a mixed economy.

lolwut. Norway has a lot of problems, but I wouldn't want to live anywhere else, other than short term.

Also high taxes? 25-36% is the usual. I was under the impression that that is about the same as Murka.

Yeah, if you take sociology you get a whole different story, because Sociologists are communists out to destroy Murka.

Well sure, Socialism is in the word Sociology. Sociology is the study of Socialism. 

CLEARLY! 

You know what would be awesome? If we could actually get teabaggers to accept that idea.

OH FUCK YES

I bet it's totally doable.

We gotta get them while they're still semirelevant!

Especially if we can convince them in the process that they're still relevant!

Methinks it's time I started up my "totally serious, 100% conservative" persona.

[Lenin McCarthy]

I actually have a Norway question that maybe you can answer:

I am under the impression that immigrating to Norway is significantly easier if you can prove that your parents or grandparents emigrated from Norway and held Norwegian citizenship. Any truth to that? America doesn't look like it's going to stop being an aloof and useless colonial master of my homeland anytime soon and on my list of countries I'd want to live in, Norway ranks higher than any other non-tropical country.

Unless you happen to be from the Russian border regions, I don't think so.
From what I know of Norwegian immigration policy, if you're from outside Europe you can move here if you:
1. Get a job here.
2. Are a refugee of some sort (for instance of you are oppressed and from a country not allied to Norway)
3. have a near relative or spouse living in Norway.
4. Have an intention to work here, sufficient funds to survive half a year here, and an education beyond high school level.

And another thing: if one of your parents were a Norwegian citizen at the time of your birth.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

ECH, If you can get it go for it. Best of luck.

Twid,
Can bounce out and theoretically get a job anywhere in the European Union, at least for short term.

[East Coast Hustle]

I actually have a Norway question that maybe you can answer:

I am under the impression that immigrating to Norway is significantly easier if you can prove that your parents or grandparents emigrated from Norway and held Norwegian citizenship. Any truth to that? America doesn't look like it's going to stop being an aloof and useless colonial master of my homeland anytime soon and on my list of countries I'd want to live in, Norway ranks higher than any other non-tropical country.

Unless you happen to be from the Russian border regions, I don't think so.
From what I know of Norwegian immigration policy, if you're from outside Europe you can move here if you:
1. Get a job here.
2. Are a refugee of some sort (for instance of you are oppressed and from a country not allied to Norway)
3. have a near relative or spouse living in Norway.
4. Have an intention to work here, sufficient funds to survive half a year here, and an education beyond high school level.

Hmm, I'd fit in under #4 but I don't have a college degree. How easy would it be for an english-speaking chef to get a job there? And can you show up on a tourist visa and apply for residency from inside Norway, or is it one of those deals where you have to apply for the residency visa from outside the country?

[EK WAFFLR]

I actually have a Norway question that maybe you can answer:

I am under the impression that immigrating to Norway is significantly easier if you can prove that your parents or grandparents emigrated from Norway and held Norwegian citizenship. Any truth to that? America doesn't look like it's going to stop being an aloof and useless colonial master of my homeland anytime soon and on my list of countries I'd want to live in, Norway ranks higher than any other non-tropical country.

Unless you happen to be from the Russian border regions, I don't think so.
From what I know of Norwegian immigration policy, if you're from outside Europe you can move here if you:
1. Get a job here.
2. Are a refugee of some sort (for instance of you are oppressed and from a country not allied to Norway)
3. have a near relative or spouse living in Norway.
4. Have an intention to work here, sufficient funds to survive half a year here, and an education beyond high school level.

Hmm, I'd fit in under #4 but I don't have a college degree. How easy would it be for an english-speaking chef to get a job there? And can you show up on a tourist visa and apply for residency from inside Norway, or is it one of those deals where you have to apply for the residency visa from outside the country?

http://www.udi.no/Norwegian-Directorate-of-Immigration/Central-topics/Work-and-residence/

[EK WAFFLR]

DON'T MESS WITH A-HA 

OR WHAT?! THEY'LL TAKE ME ON???

SERIOUSLY 000! YOU'RE A BAD BAD MAN! 

[East Coast Hustle]

I actually have a Norway question that maybe you can answer:

I am under the impression that immigrating to Norway is significantly easier if you can prove that your parents or grandparents emigrated from Norway and held Norwegian citizenship. Any truth to that? America doesn't look like it's going to stop being an aloof and useless colonial master of my homeland anytime soon and on my list of countries I'd want to live in, Norway ranks higher than any other non-tropical country.

Unless you happen to be from the Russian border regions, I don't think so.
From what I know of Norwegian immigration policy, if you're from outside Europe you can move here if you:
1. Get a job here.
2. Are a refugee of some sort (for instance of you are oppressed and from a country not allied to Norway)
3. have a near relative or spouse living in Norway.
4. Have an intention to work here, sufficient funds to survive half a year here, and an education beyond high school level.

Hmm, I'd fit in under #4 but I don't have a college degree. How easy would it be for an english-speaking chef to get a job there? And can you show up on a tourist visa and apply for residency from inside Norway, or is it one of those deals where you have to apply for the residency visa from outside the country?

http://www.udi.no/Norwegian-Directorate-of-Immigration/Central-topics/Work-and-residence/

thanks! I wasn't being lazy about looking it up for myself, my google-fu was just failing me and leading me to a bunch of those "give us thousands of dollars and we'll maybe get you the visa you want!" links.

[East Coast Hustle]

Wow, they sure don't make it easy. It looks like the only way I could get in would be as a seafarer on a ship engaged in international trade or commerce or as an ethnic cook. I'm not sure if "regional American" counts as an ethnic cuisine and unfortunately I haven't spent enough time working in West Indian restaurants to fulfill the requirement.

[Juana]

I forget wich bit it was in but ill dig it up when i get home.

In the united states the kingdom of norway is considered a failed socialist state that is barely functioning and everyone has no money due to exorbitant taxes that no one wants a non functioning healthcare system and a low quality of life despite all evidence to the contrary. At least if you describe yourself as conservative. They always say that whenever you bring up any scandinavian country successfully creating a mixed economy.

lolwut. Norway has a lot of problems, but I wouldn't want to live anywhere else, other than short term.

Also high taxes? 25-36% is the usual. I was under the impression that that is about the same as Murka.

For the middle and lower class. Upper class pays less than that, at about ~15%, IIRC.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

I actually have a Norway question that maybe you can answer:

I am under the impression that immigrating to Norway is significantly easier if you can prove that your parents or grandparents emigrated from Norway and held Norwegian citizenship. Any truth to that? America doesn't look like it's going to stop being an aloof and useless colonial master of my homeland anytime soon and on my list of countries I'd want to live in, Norway ranks higher than any other non-tropical country.

Unless you happen to be from the Russian border regions, I don't think so.
From what I know of Norwegian immigration policy, if you're from outside Europe you can move here if you:
1. Get a job here.
2. Are a refugee of some sort (for instance of you are oppressed and from a country not allied to Norway)
3. have a near relative or spouse living in Norway.
4. Have an intention to work here, sufficient funds to survive half a year here, and an education beyond high school level.

From what the UDI site says, it looks like there's ways if you want it bad enough. Even a sham marriage might do it.

And this doesn't cover Norway specifically but there's tons of good info:
http://www.amazon.com/Getting-Out-Leaving-America-Self-reliance/dp/0976082276