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Started by The Good Reverend Roger, July 26, 2012, 05:40:34 PM

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Quote from: Cuddlefish on July 27, 2012, 05:26:32 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on July 27, 2012, 05:23:30 PM
I don't even really care all that much for the Clash.  I was more offended by the implication that Patti Smith wasn't punk.  I curb-stomped an old lady for saying something similar once.

Sounds reasonable.

Quote from: Hoopla on July 27, 2012, 05:28:12 PM
To be fair, Debbie Harry had it coming.


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Cuddlefish

Quote from: Hoopla on July 27, 2012, 05:28:12 PM
To be fair, Debbie Harry had it coming.

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: I was waiting for someone to bring up Blondie.

She pioneered punk just as much as she pioneered hip-hop. ie: not at all.
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GreenDay were just posers. No one could play punk like Blink-182.  8)


On a more serious note, while the progression of music is certainly an interesting topic, we could play the game of who the most selling-outest band is all day. Not gonna lie, I certainly have my opinion on crappy music and manufactured crap, but when it comes down to it, if music touches a chord that brings about feeling in me, upto and especially laughter, then good for me.

So if blaring Rock the Casbah as I drive down the street makes me not punk enough, so be it, kiss my ass.

Course, I'd be happy as a clam plugged into non-stop Primus, so, there's that
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There's no sun shine coming through her ass, if you are sure of your penis.

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#67
Interesting to hear a bunch of rock archaeologists saying things like fuck the Sex Pistols. Easy to say, I guess, when you have hindsight and the benefit of not being there while it was happening. For those of us who were and actually remember the shit that went down in the UK back then, the pistols were punking the shit out of the establishment, generating mass hysteria amongst the middle classes and most of it was completely by design. They infected the music industry like a motherfucking virus with a deliberate quasi political agenda and, in the space of a year or so, turned the entire fucking country upside down, with a clarion call of "Fuck you Great Britian" and inspired a generation to pick up the flag and take that shit to the wall in all sorts of interesting and, at times, inspired ways.

But yeah, Malcom made a fuckton of cash out of it, Sid went out in a blaze of morphine and Johnny got a job as a margarine salesman, ergo they're not a bunch of middle class twenty somethings, in a basement, 30 years after the fact, proclaiming that they'd never sell out and make a fuckton of cash, drugs and notoriety for themselves, ergo they're not punk. :kingmeh:

All I have to say is - you should have been there. It was spectacular. While vast tracts of the establishment were going up in flames it was the Sex Pistols who were holding the fucking petrol can and looking shifty.

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Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 27, 2012, 07:59:45 PM
Fuck you guys.  Debbie Harry makes my pance tight.

She always had the smarts along with the hawts. You don't see that anymore.  :sad:
I still listen to Blondie. Fuck all y'all.  :p

Sex Pistols were as you say, Pent. But they couldn't play. Not that it really made a fuck at the time.  :lol:
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P3nT4gR4m

They couldn't play because Sid, in his role as half of the rhythm section, fucked it up for everybody. Personally I think the decision to stick him on bass was the single most genius thing that Malcolm ever did. The rest of the band, however, were solid as fuck and the singles and Bollox album are pure fucking gold. I also have a soft spot for the Swindle, especially My Way and Friggin in the Riggin but that might be more down to guilty pleasure than classic punk.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on July 29, 2012, 10:47:46 AM
They couldn't play because Sid, in his role as half of the rhythm section, fucked it up for everybody. Personally I think the decision to stick him on bass was the single most genius thing that Malcolm ever did. The rest of the band, however, were solid as fuck and the singles and Bollox album are pure fucking gold. I also have a soft spot for the Swindle, especially My Way and Friggin in the Riggin but that might be more down to guilty pleasure than classic punk.

Frigging In The Rigging is one of my favourite songs to sing when pished.

and I once sang the Sid version of My Way on a toilet in Palm Springs.

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I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
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Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Triple Zero

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 26, 2012, 07:40:21 PMThe ethos has been around for a long time.  Prometheus was a punk.

For saying "fuck you" to the Man?

Doesn't that mean the other Lightbringer is also a punk, then?

...

And does that mean that Death Metal is basically songs about punk-worshipping?
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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on July 29, 2012, 10:47:46 AM
They couldn't play because Sid, in his role as half of the rhythm section, fucked it up for everybody. Personally I think the decision to stick him on bass was the single most genius thing that Malcolm ever did. The rest of the band, however, were solid as fuck and the singles and Bollox album are pure fucking gold. I also have a soft spot for the Swindle, especially My Way and Friggin in the Riggin but that might be more down to guilty pleasure than classic punk.

True, it was Sid. 
Never really figured out if keeping him in spite of the way his playing sucked was a punk thing to do ("Fuck you, we don't give a fuck"), or just kind of a sellout thing. ("He's fucking nuts, he's the show.")
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Nephew Twiddleton

Death metals not particularly satanic as far as other kinds of metal go. However metal is what it is today due to punk influence in the mid to late seventies. Otherwise wed probably play slow bluesy music to get high to still.
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