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Re: Oh Noez! What about Teh Menz? -Patriarchy isn't a dude's friend EITHER!
« Reply #675 on: August 16, 2012, 02:11:25 am »

Fair enough. And I'm not a fan of "straight" for much the same reason, though I haven't really found a decent alternative.


People?  Alongside all the other people?

The only time I've ever found a person's sexual orientation to be relevant to my judgment of them is when the possibility of sexual advances exists. And, in all of those cases, I've found my sexual orientation to be "yes please."
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« Reply #676 on: August 16, 2012, 02:13:13 am »

Fair enough. And I'm not a fan of "straight" for much the same reason, though I haven't really found a decent alternative.


People?  Alongside all the other people?

The only time I've ever found a person's sexual orientation to be relevant to my judgment of them is when the possibility of sexual advances exists. And, in all of those cases, I've found my sexual orientation to be "yes please."

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Re: Oh Noez! What about Teh Menz? -Patriarchy isn't a dude's friend EITHER!
« Reply #677 on: August 16, 2012, 02:18:28 am »
I've been looking at the charts.  I'm apparently a cisliberal.

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Re: Oh Noez! What about Teh Menz? -Patriarchy isn't a dude's friend EITHER!
« Reply #678 on: August 16, 2012, 02:19:30 am »
the fact that I wanted to be a boy-person as a very young kid and wanted to be able to pee standing up and facing the loo is pretty irrelevant now. I tried it, and it was messy.  :lulz:  I'd like to find a way of peeing outside that doesn't involve me peeing on the legs of my jeans and shoes though.

Have you tried one of these?
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« Reply #679 on: August 16, 2012, 02:21:07 am »
Apparently the solution to using labels to oversimplify everything is using labels to complicate things, instead.
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Re: Oh Noez! What about Teh Menz? -Patriarchy isn't a dude's friend EITHER!
« Reply #680 on: August 16, 2012, 02:21:56 am »
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Re: Oh Noez! What about Teh Menz? -Patriarchy isn't a dude's friend EITHER!
« Reply #681 on: August 16, 2012, 02:28:11 am »

Fair enough. And I'm not a fan of "straight" for much the same reason, though I haven't really found a decent alternative.


People?  Alongside all the other people?

In terms of where you're coming from I completely agree. People are people. And it's not like how I think of myself on a daily basis is "white cis upper-middle-class pansexual". How I perceive myself on a daily basis is, you know, Signora.

But the "no labels we're all people" thing only really works in an egilatarian society. Labels come into play when I'm thinking "we're all people and deserve to be fucking equal, so why is my pay rise less than my make colleagues?... oh right, because I'm a woman."

In a truly egilatarian society, labels will become obsolete. And bring it the fuck on.
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Re: Oh Noez! What about Teh Menz? -Patriarchy isn't a dude's friend EITHER!
« Reply #682 on: August 16, 2012, 02:31:18 am »
But the "no labels we're all people" thing only really works in an egilatarian society. Labels come into play when I'm thinking "we're all people and deserve to be fucking equal, so why is my pay rise less than my make colleagues?... oh right, because I'm a woman."

You get the future you demand.  Thing is, most people don't think they're demanding what they're positively screaming for.

And one way to demand a future worth living in is to not tolerate labelling.
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« Reply #683 on: August 16, 2012, 02:42:26 am »
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« Reply #684 on: August 16, 2012, 02:43:06 am »
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« Reply #685 on: August 16, 2012, 02:51:13 am »
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« Reply #686 on: August 16, 2012, 02:52:28 am »
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Now you're just being SILLY.
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« Reply #687 on: August 16, 2012, 02:52:56 am »
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« Reply #688 on: August 16, 2012, 02:53:44 am »
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Re: Oh Noez! What about Teh Menz? -Patriarchy isn't a dude's friend EITHER!
« Reply #689 on: August 16, 2012, 02:53:57 am »
You get the future you demand.  Thing is, most people don't think they're demanding what they're positively screaming for.

I'm so sorry Roger, I'm not sure what you mean by this. Would you mind clarifying?

And one way to demand a future worth living in is to not tolerate labelling.

To me, it's kind of the other way around. While society in general perceives certain groups of people as lesser than others, those labels become a way to subvert and chip away at those perceptions. When we have a society where people are based solely on their merits, then we won't need the labels. I won't be getting paid less because I'm female; I'll be getting paid less because I'm on PD on my iPhone while I'm building ridiculously complicated reports  :lulz:
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