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Why You Have to Smack Me Upside the Head so Often

Started by The Good Reverend Roger, August 17, 2012, 04:49:10 PM

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The Good Reverend Roger

Okay, you may have noticed that in some threads, I will ride an idea around for about 20 pages, while you jackasses try to explain to me why I'm obviously wrong.  You're usually right about me being wrong, and it's not that I'm digging in my heels, though I know it may look like that a lot of the time.

Thing is, I'm not stupid, but I am a little dense.  Things have to be bashed into my head for them to take.  Once they DO take, though, I change my worldview to accept the new information, IF I can be convinced by your arguments that I am in fact operating on bad signal.

Nigel, practically alone among PD monsters, has broken my heart, shattered my confidence and shaken my most fervently held beliefs about myself, MANY TIMES, just using WORDS SHE TYPED ON THE
INTERNET.  This is the reason I extend so much credibility towards her.  Garbo is much the same.

Some of you may not LIKE having your heart, confidence, and beliefs shaken, IF they can be shaken at all.  Certainly it's not a PLEASANT experience.  But, oddly enough, I don't actually feel at all weakened by it.  JUST THE OPPOSITE!  Because, a couple of times, I had to admit that Nigel or Garbo was right and that I was wrong, I have had to develop the brain muscles and the glands to ADMIT TO MYSELF  AND IN PUBLIC THAT I WAS WRONG.  Another way to say that is I became strong enough to CHANGE MY MIND so that I can see the world the way it IS, not The World As Roger Would Like To See It.

Maybe it's just Stockholm Syndrome but they remain two of my heroes even as they're berating me and boxing my ears.  I only wish I was smart enough to maybe one day put the screws to their ideas the way they've mangled mine, JUST TO RETURN THE FAVOR.

So, yeah, when I seem to be arguing an idea into the ground, it's not because I'm trying to salvage bad information or save face or any stupid shit like that, it's because I want to be SURE about the situation from all possible angles, before I take the incredibly difficult step of, you know, changing my mind.  I understand that this may cause frustration.  Please bear with me.  Or kill me.

This isn't an excuse, it's more an explanation of shit that's come up recently.  So everybody shut up.

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Aw!  :oops: :)

You remain one of my personal heroes, Roger, for being completely unafraid to shout your guts out about something you think is important, AND simultaneously, your ability to stand up and shout it out when you were wrong and changed your mind about something.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Anna Mae Bollocks

This place is awesome for that kind of thing. I can't even list all of the people who made me go "Oh wait, that's right...wow, I had it all fucked up." Nigel, Roger, Cain, LMNO, I don't know how many others.

Outta here before I ruin this place with warm fuzzies and shit.  :lol: But thanks, everybody.
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Juana

^^^ That. I've had more than a few, "Oh, wow, that was wrong" moments here. For which I'm grateful.

Also, haha, you're pretty awesome, too, Rog. :D
"I dispose of obsolete meat machines.  Not because I hate them (I do) and not because they deserve it (they do), but because they are in the way and those older ones don't meet emissions codes.  They emit too much.  You don't like them and I don't like them, so spare me the hysteria."

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Yeah, this place has smacked me in the back of the head more times than I can count.
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson

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Quote from: Dear Departed Uncle Nigel on August 17, 2012, 05:15:17 PM
You remain one of my personal heroes, Roger, for being completely unafraid to shout your guts out about something you think is important, AND simultaneously, your ability to stand up and shout it out when you were wrong and changed your mind about something.

This.

You're like Discordian Jesus, getting smacked publicly so I can learn by observation and not repeat the same mistake.

Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on August 17, 2012, 11:55:25 PM
Yeah, this place has smacked me in the back of the head more times than I can count.

PD.com: antidote to Cosmic Shmuckery.

Don't we all need a smack upside the head every so often?
P E R   A S P E R A   A D   A S T R A

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: Net on August 18, 2012, 12:02:16 AM
Quote from: Dear Departed Uncle Nigel on August 17, 2012, 05:15:17 PM
You remain one of my personal heroes, Roger, for being completely unafraid to shout your guts out about something you think is important, AND simultaneously, your ability to stand up and shout it out when you were wrong and changed your mind about something.

This.

You're like Discordian Jesus, getting smacked publicly so I can learn by observation and not repeat the same mistake.

Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on August 17, 2012, 11:55:25 PM
Yeah, this place has smacked me in the back of the head more times than I can count.

PD.com: antidote to Cosmic Shmuckery.

Don't we all need a smack upside the head every so often?

Exactly!
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Net on August 18, 2012, 12:02:16 AM
Quote from: Dear Departed Uncle Nigel on August 17, 2012, 05:15:17 PM
You remain one of my personal heroes, Roger, for being completely unafraid to shout your guts out about something you think is important, AND simultaneously, your ability to stand up and shout it out when you were wrong and changed your mind about something.

This.

You're like Discordian Jesus, getting smacked publicly so I can learn by observation and not repeat the same mistake.


HA!  I am now Prototype Jesus!
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Dear Departed Uncle Nigel on August 17, 2012, 05:15:17 PM
Aw!  :oops: :)

You remain one of my personal heroes, Roger, for being completely unafraid to shout your guts out about something you think is important, AND simultaneously, your ability to stand up and shout it out when you were wrong and changed your mind about something.

One of the many downsides (benefits?) of the "SHOVE YOUR HEAD IN AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS" mentality is that you frequently pull back a stump.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cain

I thought "smacking Roger upside the head every so often" was the equivalent of "have you tried turning it off and back on again?" Although, amazingly, smacking computers has a remarkable success rate.  Based on this logic, I suggest turning the Roger off and back on again should you have future problems.

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: Cain on August 18, 2012, 02:11:49 AM
I thought "smacking Roger upside the head every so often" was the equivalent of "have you tried turning it off and back on again?" Although, amazingly, smacking computers has a remarkable success rate.  Based on this logic, I suggest turning the Roger off and back on again should you have future problems.

Well since he's 'cis' I'd have a difficult time turning him on.   :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on August 18, 2012, 02:14:16 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 18, 2012, 02:11:49 AM
I thought "smacking Roger upside the head every so often" was the equivalent of "have you tried turning it off and back on again?" Although, amazingly, smacking computers has a remarkable success rate.  Based on this logic, I suggest turning the Roger off and back on again should you have future problems.

Well since he's 'cis' I'd have a difficult time turning him on.   :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

You might be surprised.  When I'm on benzos & bourbon, I get turned on by a light breeze.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Cain on August 18, 2012, 02:11:49 AM
I thought "smacking Roger upside the head every so often" was the equivalent of "have you tried turning it off and back on again?" Although, amazingly, smacking computers has a remarkable success rate.  Based on this logic, I suggest turning the Roger off and back on again should you have future problems.

When I am ancient and on life support, I am kind of counting on you to do exactly that, Cain.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cain

Deal, but at least one time beforehand I'll just unplug the monitor, to make the doctors freak out.

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: Prototype Jesus on August 18, 2012, 02:16:17 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 18, 2012, 02:11:49 AM
I thought "smacking Roger upside the head every so often" was the equivalent of "have you tried turning it off and back on again?" Although, amazingly, smacking computers has a remarkable success rate.  Based on this logic, I suggest turning the Roger off and back on again should you have future problems.

When I am ancient and on life support, I am kind of counting on you to do exactly that, Cain.

We can wire your life support up to PD.com... then we can automate it so keywords like anarchist, madjickal, drugs etc shut it down and good rants or pineal noobs kick it back on  :lulz:

Or we can just all take turns pushing the button at random times.
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson