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What are your criteria for a constructive discussion thread?

Started by ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞, August 19, 2012, 12:04:33 PM

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ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞

Perhaps if we just laid it all out on the table we may learn how to better stomp on each other's toes, or lack thereof.

For me, the more of these the better:

       
  • Sharing of knowledge that can be put into use in daily interactions
  • Conceding points
  • LULZ
  • Rejacking thread drift
  • Statements of agreement/disagreement with a super-concise explanation
  • Quoting shit with the specific post information in it, so everybody can fucking click right the fuck to it for context you lazy fuck don't make everyone dig for it, I don't care if it's 50 pages back and you want to share your thoughts but for fuck's sake use the quote button in their godforsaken post while you're there copying and pasting it not the:
    QuoteDERPA DERPA DERPA
    tags christ what an asshole, knucklefucking shitato
  • Feature article length posts but with two little details that have a surprisingly helpful power to navigate and educate: a headline and section headings. If you're going to go through all that trouble to write that beast is it too much to ask that you organize it into helpful topic sections and a well distilled headline?
  • Brutal satires/trolls with a point
  • Questions aimed at clarifying garble
  • Beating dead horses into such a fine pulpy mist that you can taste it in your vestigial lung buds (go ahead and laugh you fuck, but I mean that, I will be reformulating some arguments on some audiences until I'm proven wrong or otherwise die of equine inhalation)
P E R   A S P E R A   A D   A S T R A

Verbal Mike

Unless stated otherwise, feel free to copy or reproduce any text I post anywhere and any way you like. I will never throw a hissy-fit over it, promise.

The Good Reverend Roger

#2
* View a conceded point as a complete victory.  Moon walk on the smoking remains.

* Keep bringing up the same point(s) over and over again, no matter how peripherally involved it is to the subject.

* Anyone who disagrees with you should be emotionally bastinadoed or told they're not capable of understanding.


Note:  All 3 of those are from 3 different discussions over the last few years.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Anna Mae Bollocks

Scantily-Clad Inspector of Gigantic and Unnecessary Cashews, Texas Division

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#4
One in which people's feelings/experiences are heard and not dismissed as being incorrect.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


AFK

Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

The Good Reverend Roger

To offer an opinion without being snarled at.  To not be considered the "safe target" for said fucking snarling, when other people are being openly disagreeable without facing said snarling.  TO NOT BE TAKEN FOR FUCKING GRANTED.  To not be considered somewhere between a flatworm and a trilobite for not agreeing 169%. To not be treated like a Goddamn dog that's messed on the carpet.

That would be a good fucking start.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

P3nT4gR4m

One where I learn something new. The rest of it, who's right, who's wrong, who spins the most convincing line of bullshit? That shit can go to fuck as far as I'm concerned. I'm selfish that way :evil:

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Juana

When a point has been conceded, let it go. Don't bring it up over and over and over again to the person who surrendered it. It's repetitive and only fucks up discussion to the nth degree.

Don't treat it like a competition (this is sometimes a bad habit of mine; please call me out if it looks like I'm doing it).

Arguments sometimes turn heated. Keep the heat in-thread instead of starting a forum-burning wild fire.

Don't make assumptions. Don't put words in other people's mouths. If you have a problem with an implication, quote it and break it down.

Try not to read the worst into something someone says, unless it's a direct personal attack. The vast majority of human communication is body language and we don't have that here.
"I dispose of obsolete meat machines.  Not because I hate them (I do) and not because they deserve it (they do), but because they are in the way and those older ones don't meet emissions codes.  They emit too much.  You don't like them and I don't like them, so spare me the hysteria."

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on August 19, 2012, 10:58:13 PM

Don't treat it like a competition (this is sometimes a bad habit of mine; please call me out if it looks like I'm doing it).


This is wicked difficult for me to avoid, too. Especially if I'm getting bored with a conversation. I really should just duck out of it but, fuck it, there's some people I might be able to convince of something I probably don't even really agree with myself ...


I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Juana

#10
I spent a third of my life as a competitive debater and being able to hone in on a breakpoint in an argument is a useful skill. If I'm not paying attention, I tend to revert to that. :s
"I dispose of obsolete meat machines.  Not because I hate them (I do) and not because they deserve it (they do), but because they are in the way and those older ones don't meet emissions codes.  They emit too much.  You don't like them and I don't like them, so spare me the hysteria."

Faust

Only criteria:
Threads that recognises discussion can be fun and interesting.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 19, 2012, 10:21:20 PM
To offer an opinion without being snarled at.  To not be considered the "safe target" for said fucking snarling, when other people are being openly disagreeable without facing said snarling.  TO NOT BE TAKEN FOR FUCKING GRANTED.  To not be considered somewhere between a flatworm and a trilobite for not agreeing 169%. To not be treated like a Goddamn dog that's messed on the carpet.

That would be a good fucking start.

OK, I am going to ask you directly: Is this about something I said?
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Dear Departed Uncle Nigel on August 20, 2012, 01:10:19 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 19, 2012, 10:21:20 PM
To offer an opinion without being snarled at.  To not be considered the "safe target" for said fucking snarling, when other people are being openly disagreeable without facing said snarling.  TO NOT BE TAKEN FOR FUCKING GRANTED.  To not be considered somewhere between a flatworm and a trilobite for not agreeing 169%. To not be treated like a Goddamn dog that's messed on the carpet.

That would be a good fucking start.

OK, I am going to ask you directly: Is this about something I said?

Yes.  See the No Cause, No Ally thread.

It wasn't just you, but that WAS the splinter up underneath the fingernail.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 20, 2012, 01:17:56 AM
Quote from: Dear Departed Uncle Nigel on August 20, 2012, 01:10:19 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 19, 2012, 10:21:20 PM
To offer an opinion without being snarled at.  To not be considered the "safe target" for said fucking snarling, when other people are being openly disagreeable without facing said snarling.  TO NOT BE TAKEN FOR FUCKING GRANTED.  To not be considered somewhere between a flatworm and a trilobite for not agreeing 169%. To not be treated like a Goddamn dog that's messed on the carpet.

That would be a good fucking start.

OK, I am going to ask you directly: Is this about something I said?

Yes.  See the No Cause, No Ally thread.

It wasn't just you, but that WAS the splinter up underneath the fingernail.

Well, great. I'll just fuck off then.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."