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Started by hooplala, September 12, 2012, 06:22:24 PM

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hooplala

I'm sure most of you have heard that some scientists are attempting to create meat which has never been sawed off a living animal.  I'm also sure most of you are aware that Tumblr and other pockets of the internet are the resting spot of rabid vegetarians and vegans... so, this news finally hit them.  I don't have screen caps at the moment, but the general sentiment among them all seems to be that this is the worst bit of science since the atom bomb, it's Frankenscience (which, admittedly, it is), it's unethical, it's evil, blah blah blah...

Whiskey.  Tango.  Foxtrot.

Scientifically created meat should be the answer to all their issues, except perhaps the issue of the healthiness of consuming red meat - which I am dubious about, but that's a separate issue - or is it?  ANYway... am I getting raged over nothing?  Are they right?  Is this stupid? HUH??
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LMNO

Considering Tumblr and Reddit are festering pits of STOOPID, this is not surprising.

Juana

They're stupid. It was never alive, there's no way to inhumanely kill it, and, yeah, it should answer all of their issues with it. Unless they think meat is gross for another reason, which is different altogether.


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tyrannosaurus vex

As long as they can develop a reliable way to tone the meat and give it a natural texture, I don't see why anyone would complain about this other than forgetting the entire point of their original position. But then, these are the people who blast fiery tirades against corporate cultural domination from their iThings. Militant vegetarians are not so much pro-animal as they are anti-meat.
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Nephew Twiddleton

I would switch to lab meat tomorrow if i could. And the healthiness of red meat is dependent on a lot of factors including north americans being largely incapable of eating proper portions and variety.

Twid
hates the fact that cute things are tasty but accepts omnivorous life style. Except in feb-march.
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Bu🤠ns

It's "unnatural" is probably the bottom line for most of these people.  Which is a really naive statement in itself.

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Nephew Twiddleton

Going to the moon is unnatural. I never particularly liked most vegans on principle. They have very loud uniforms.
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P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: v3x on September 12, 2012, 06:37:42 PM
As long as they can develop a reliable way to tone the meat and give it a natural texture, I don't see why anyone would complain about this other than forgetting the entire point of their original position. But then, these are the people who blast fiery tirades against corporate cultural domination from their iThings. Militant vegetarians are not so much pro-animal as they are anti-meat.

Militant anythings are generally anti-stuff and much more interested in being pains in the fucking ass than even that.

I'm pretty sure that, some day soon, the same psychologists who classified trainspotting as a mental condition will turn their apparatus on militants and come to a similar conclusion.

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tyrannosaurus vex

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on September 12, 2012, 06:56:36 PM
Quote from: v3x on September 12, 2012, 06:37:42 PM
As long as they can develop a reliable way to tone the meat and give it a natural texture, I don't see why anyone would complain about this other than forgetting the entire point of their original position. But then, these are the people who blast fiery tirades against corporate cultural domination from their iThings. Militant vegetarians are not so much pro-animal as they are anti-meat.

Militant anythings are generally anti-stuff and much more interested in being pains in the fucking ass than even that.

I'm pretty sure that, some day soon, the same psychologists who classified trainspotting as a mental condition will turn their apparatus on militants and come to a similar conclusion.

Yes it's true. Vegetarians are actually nice people if you can avoid their flatulence. Vegans, on the other hand, are like Vegetarian Al Qaeda.
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Verbal Mike

A bunch of vegetarians I know are more concerned about environmental impact. This is also why I eat less meat than I used to. So I guess the question would be whether the overall footprint of the synthetic meat would be significantly higher than that of vegetables.

But "stupid" is usually a good bet anyway.
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hooplala

Quote from: VERBL on September 12, 2012, 07:12:38 PM
A bunch of vegetarians I know are more concerned about environmental impact. This is also why I eat less meat than I used to. So I guess the question would be whether the overall footprint of the synthetic meat would be significantly higher than that of vegetables.

But "stupid" is usually a good bet anyway.

I once read that soybean farms in South American take up more rain forest space than cattle farms, but for the life of me I haven't been able to rediscover where I originally read that... or possibly dreamt it...  :eek:
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"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

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The Good Reverend Roger

This is the best 1st world problem I've ever seen.  Most of the world is fighting over a handful of spoiled rice, and these bastards are whimpering because plentiful meat might be available that didn't require a death.

HERE'S THE REASON:  With non-animal meat available, the most effective selling tool they have for their religion goes away.  They will no longer feel special.  Many of them base their entire sense of self-worth on this sort of thing, so you aren't just challenging their beliefs, but also their IDENTITY.

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Verbal Mike

Quote from: Hoopla on September 12, 2012, 07:15:04 PM
Quote from: VERBL on September 12, 2012, 07:12:38 PM
A bunch of vegetarians I know are more concerned about environmental impact. This is also why I eat less meat than I used to. So I guess the question would be whether the overall footprint of the synthetic meat would be significantly higher than that of vegetables.

But "stupid" is usually a good bet anyway.

I once read that soybean farms in South American take up more rain forest space than cattle farms, but for the life of me I haven't been able to rediscover where I originally read that... or possibly dreamt it...  :eek:
I've heard similar stuff a few times. One of the many reasons it's a bad idea to rely on soy too much in any way.

But it's my understanding that the main environmental and social problems associated with soy are caused mainly by Monsanto monoculture unsustainable crap crops.

Anyway, there are fortunately several other plants out there you can eat, and some of them even provide protein. :)
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