UNLIMITED holist appreciation thread

[Pope Pixie Pickle]

"Still/solo" images aside (that's a whole other argument), if at it's best it's still turning an actual human into a commidty, it's wrong.

I'm talking about your low-end shit, here.  Filmed in shitty motels who only say "don't clog up the drains".

I wonder... is THAT backpedalling? Just checkin'

Also, humans are commodified in professional sports, in the hospitality industry, hell, they are commodified in most educational systems. If there is something specifically wrong about films of people having sex being sold, it is not likely to be the commodification of humans.

ANNNNNNND THE BUTTHURT SPILLS ALL OVER THE BOARD 

It is the song of my people.

Also what the fuck was up with Holist and the drive by posting? I was just starting to have FUN^TM. MOTHERFUCKER!

If it's all the same to ya, I'd just as soon he didn't stain up the thread unnecessarily.

Homoeopathy poop is hard to get out of the furniture.

[P3nT4gR4m]

"Still/solo" images aside (that's a whole other argument), if at it's best it's still turning an actual human into a commidty, it's wrong.

I'm talking about your low-end shit, here.  Filmed in shitty motels who only say "don't clog up the drains".

I wonder... is THAT backpedalling? Just checkin'

Also, humans are commodified in professional sports, in the hospitality industry, hell, they are commodified in most educational systems. If there is something specifically wrong about films of people having sex being sold, it is not likely to be the commodification of humans.

ANNNNNNND THE BUTTHURT SPILLS ALL OVER THE BOARD 

It is the song of my people.

Also what the fuck was up with Holist and the drive by posting? I was just starting to have FUN^TM. MOTHERFUCKER!

If it's all the same to ya, I'd just as soon he didn't stain up the thread unnecessarily.

Homoeopathy poop is hard to get out of the furniture.

No it's not. Homoeopathy is just water. 

[Dildo Argentino]

[The difference between hospitality and professional sportspeoples and the sex work is that is doesn't fuck people up with as large a rate as the sex industry, with is selling PEOPLE AND THEIR BODY PARTS not their skills.  The sex industry is slavery. when it's at its worst.

Yo to you, too, Pixie,

Your first sentence I could almost agree with, you'd only have to replace "The difference" by "One of the differences". Although I would be interested to see a study of how professional sportspeople do after their careers end, and I certainly haven't seen many waiters or hotel maids retire early with a handy sum and a bag of investments, with that minor adjustment your first sentence is probably right.

But that has nothing whatsoever to do with the point I was making, namely that IF the thing that made the porn-movie industry "just wrong", as Roger was asserting, is that it commodifies humans, THEN there is also something morally wrong with the professional sports industry, the hospitality industry - incidentally, also the film and music industries - as well as most educational systems, because humans get commodified in them as well.

Your second sentence (two very short sentences?), however, is totally ambiguous.  Does it mean that the sex industry (any sex industry) is as bad as slavery at its worst? I think that's very obviously false: take the example of the South American peoples being enslaved to work in Spanish gold-mines - I'm sure some porn actors have it bad, and some even have it very bad, but I think there's really no comparison. Alternatively, it could mean that the sex industry, at its worst, is as bad as slavery: a truism.

Your link title's blanket statement is utter fucking bullshit bullshit bullshit.  Seriously.

It's not a fucking blanket statement, its a fucking headline. Seriously. Nobody in their right mind would actually want to assert that "Guys who do not use pornography do not exist", there's the deaf and blind, for starters.

The link talks some sense about how porn has warped post-internet sexuality for some people...

I think it talks some sense about a little more, which you seem unwilling to acknowledge: that porn use is extremely prevalent in teens and young adults (those who were socialised with a working multi-media net connection). And that this is perhaps a problem.

Now do me a favour and get the fuck off my planet.

You do know you can put me off it? It's in the settings somewhere.

[Dildo Argentino]

My partner, Payne, (or PANG!, as his screenname is now) doesn't watch porn

or..

[Pope Pixie Pickle]

My partner, Payne, (or PANG!, as his screenname is now) doesn't watch porn

or..

Or what? jackass?

[Pope Pixie Pickle]

[The difference between hospitality and professional sportspeoples and the sex work is that is doesn't fuck people up with as large a rate as the sex industry, with is selling PEOPLE AND THEIR BODY PARTS not their skills.  The sex industry is slavery. when it's at its worst.

Yo to you, too, Pixie,

Your first sentence I could almost agree with, you'd only have to replace "The difference" by "One of the differences". Although I would be interested to see a study of how professional sportspeople do after their careers end, and I certainly haven't seen many waiters or hotel maids retire early with a handy sum and a bag of investments, with that minor adjustment your first sentence is probably right.

But that has nothing whatsoever to do with the point I was making, namely that IF the thing that made the porn-movie industry "just wrong", as Roger was asserting, is that it commodifies humans, THEN there is also something morally wrong with the professional sports industry, the hospitality industry - incidentally, also the film and music industries - as well as most educational systems, because humans get commodified in them as well.

Your second sentence (two very short sentences?), however, is totally ambiguous.  Does it mean that the sex industry (any sex industry) is as bad as slavery at its worst? I think that's very obviously false: take the example of the South American peoples being enslaved to work in Spanish gold-mines - I'm sure some porn actors have it bad, and some even have it very bad, but I think there's really no comparison. Alternatively, it could mean that the sex industry, at its worst, is as bad as slavery: a truism.

Sex trafficking = slavery.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Let me know when you guys are done, so I can split this shit.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

And done.

[Dildo Argentino]

Sex trafficking = slavery.

But the subject of discussion was porn. And even you used the term "sex industry". Which is not the same as sex trafficking.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I'LL STAY A DAY OR TWO
I'LL STAY THE WHOLE MONTH THROUGH
BUT BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY TO YOU
I MUST BE GOING.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

I'LL STAY A DAY OR TWO
I'LL STAY THE WHOLE MONTH THROUGH
BUT BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY TO YOU
I MUST BE GOING.

He lurvs you already. 

[Freeky]

I'LL STAY A DAY OR TWO
I'LL STAY THE WHOLE MONTH THROUGH
BUT BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY TO YOU
I MUST BE GOING.

[ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞]

[The difference between hospitality and professional sportspeoples and the sex work is that is doesn't fuck people up with as large a rate as the sex industry, with is selling PEOPLE AND THEIR BODY PARTS not their skills.  The sex industry is slavery. when it's at its worst.

Yo to you, too, Pixie,

Your first sentence I could almost agree with, you'd only have to replace "The difference" by "One of the differences". Although I would be interested to see a study of how professional sportspeople do after their careers end, and I certainly haven't seen many waiters or hotel maids retire early with a handy sum and a bag of investments, with that minor adjustment your first sentence is probably right.

But that has nothing whatsoever to do with the point I was making, namely that IF the thing that made the porn-movie industry "just wrong", as Roger was asserting, is that it commodifies humans, THEN there is also something morally wrong with the professional sports industry, the hospitality industry - incidentally, also the film and music industries - as well as most educational systems, because humans get commodified in them as well.

Your second sentence (two very short sentences?), however, is totally ambiguous.  Does it mean that the sex industry (any sex industry) is as bad as slavery at its worst? I think that's very obviously false: take the example of the South American peoples being enslaved to work in Spanish gold-mines - I'm sure some porn actors have it bad, and some even have it very bad, but I think there's really no comparison. Alternatively, it could mean that the sex industry, at its worst, is as bad as slavery: a truism.

Your link title's blanket statement is utter fucking bullshit bullshit bullshit.  Seriously.

It's not a fucking blanket statement, its a fucking headline. Seriously. Nobody in their right mind would actually want to assert that "Guys who do not use pornography do not exist", there's the deaf and blind, for starters.

The link talks some sense about how porn has warped post-internet sexuality for some people...

I think it talks some sense about a little more, which you seem unwilling to acknowledge: that porn use is extremely prevalent in teens and young adults (those who were socialised with a working multi-media net connection). And that this is perhaps a problem.

Now do me a favour and get the fuck off my planet.

You do know you can put me off it? It's in the settings somewhere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K94b4buRNFE

[East Coast Hustle]

"Still/solo" images aside (that's a whole other argument), if at it's best it's still turning an actual human into a commidty, it's wrong.

I'm talking about your low-end shit, here.  Filmed in shitty motels who only say "don't clog up the drains".

I wonder... is THAT backpedalling? Just checkin'

Also, humans are commodified in professional sports, in the hospitality industry, hell, they are commodified in most educational systems. If there is something specifically wrong about films of people having sex being sold, it is not likely to be the commodification of humans.

Wow, it's Homoeopathy Boy with his l33t critical thinking skills back again. :rolls eyes: What is your special power? Is it being full of shit, yanno, like homoeopathic cures are according to it's prime tenants?

The difference between hospitality and professional sportspeoples and the sex work is that is doesn't fuck people up with as large a rate as the sex industry, with is selling PEOPLE AND THEIR BODY PARTS not their skills.  The sex industry is slavery. when it's at its worst.

This, as it turns out, may not be true.

[East Coast Hustle]

Which raises some interesting ethical questions about professional football (and to a slightly lesser degree, soccer).