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A few thoughts on the latest round of White Guilt discussions

Started by The Good Reverend Roger, November 28, 2012, 07:34:23 PM

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The Good Reverend Roger

#90
November 30, 2012, 06:55:37 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on November 30, 2012, 06:52:54 PM
Sorry roger- i thought i had called him out on it.

You called him out on wanting to be banned, as far as I can tell.  That's also what Iptuous did.

And rightfully so.

But there's something apparently wrong with my head, because I figured the more egregious thing would have been the fact that he was attacking an honest apology and explanation, not that he commented that he hasn't been banned yet.

Must be me.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Nephew Twiddleton

#91
November 30, 2012, 06:59:34 PM
I did ask him is that why he has a boner for you. The fact that he attacked your apology just seems like something that he would do along with all of the other crap he does. I wasnt just covering this instance but rather why is he a dick to people in general and you specifically.
Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
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Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS

Nephew Twiddleton

#92
November 30, 2012, 07:07:30 PM
So heres the thing holist- ive noticed that both with me and roger that you like to take a swipe at people when theyre... I dont know the word. But you took the opportunity to take a swipe at my music for no reason while i was trying to figure out what to do about my blues. And then you take a swipe at roger when hes trying to figure out if his sense of humor still works here and such. Now yeah your kind of a dick so your going to swipe at people anyway. But can you just do us all a favor and butt the fuck out if someone is doing a bit of soul searching or legitimately trying to get some sort of understanding across?

You can still be a dick and not kick someone while theyre down.
Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
Sentence or sentence fragment pending

Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS

Elder Iptuous

#93
November 30, 2012, 07:08:27 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 30, 2012, 06:55:37 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on November 30, 2012, 06:52:54 PM
Sorry roger- i thought i had called him out on it.

You called him out on wanting to be banned, as far as I can tell.  That's also what Iptuous did.

And rightfully so.

But there's something apparently wrong with my head, because I figured the more egregious thing would have been the fact that he was attacking an honest apology and explanation, not that he commented that he hasn't been banned yet.

Must be me.

shit no, man.  i know full well that you can chew him up yourself.  there's no need for you to apologize in the first place, from what i've seen.  and there's no need for us to beat on some clinging irritant when you do.  he's one of your people! :lol:

The Good Reverend Roger

#94
November 30, 2012, 07:11:18 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on November 30, 2012, 07:08:27 PM
i know full well that you can chew him up yourself.

Yes, this is true.  I never need backup of any kind, or any sort of idea that I'm not on my own when it comes to this sort of thing.

Carry on.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

#95
November 30, 2012, 07:20:02 PM
I've got the fucker on pledge, so... I stayed with that.  I apologize if that gave me the appearance of not caring what he said to you.  I do, that's why he's pledged.

The Good Reverend Roger

#96
November 30, 2012, 07:24:55 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on November 30, 2012, 07:07:30 PM
So heres the thing holist- ive noticed that both with me and roger that you like to take a swipe at people when theyre... I dont know the word. But you took the opportunity to take a swipe at my music for no reason while i was trying to figure out what to do about my blues. And then you take a swipe at roger when hes trying to figure out if his sense of humor still works here and such. Now yeah your kind of a dick so your going to swipe at people anyway. But can you just do us all a favor and butt the fuck out if someone is doing a bit of soul searching or legitimately trying to get some sort of understanding across?

You can still be a dick and not kick someone while theyre down.

I've been thinking about this, and my conclusion is this:  Get mad at the sun for rising.  Holist can't help being a vulture, it's his nature.  It's not what he does, it's what he IS.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Nephew Twiddleton

#97
November 30, 2012, 07:28:44 PM
Youre right- i dont even recall the last time i said something to him. Hes probably a bully irl since that seems to be his mo.
Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
Sentence or sentence fragment pending

Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS

The Good Reverend Roger

#98
November 30, 2012, 07:29:53 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on November 30, 2012, 07:28:44 PM
Youre right- i dont even recall the last time i said something to him. Hes probably a bully irl since that seems to be his mo.

He strikes me more as the perpetual victim of bullies, now with online anonymity, but you could be right.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

#99
November 30, 2012, 07:32:10 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 30, 2012, 07:24:55 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on November 30, 2012, 07:07:30 PM
So heres the thing holist- ive noticed that both with me and roger that you like to take a swipe at people when theyre... I dont know the word. But you took the opportunity to take a swipe at my music for no reason while i was trying to figure out what to do about my blues. And then you take a swipe at roger when hes trying to figure out if his sense of humor still works here and such. Now yeah your kind of a dick so your going to swipe at people anyway. But can you just do us all a favor and butt the fuck out if someone is doing a bit of soul searching or legitimately trying to get some sort of understanding across?

You can still be a dick and not kick someone while theyre down.

I've been thinking about this, and my conclusion is this:  Get mad at the sun for rising.  Holist can't help being a vulture, it's his nature.  It's not what he does, it's what he IS.

Another reason for the pledge.

The Good Reverend Roger

#100
November 30, 2012, 07:33:28 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on November 30, 2012, 07:32:10 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 30, 2012, 07:24:55 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on November 30, 2012, 07:07:30 PM
So heres the thing holist- ive noticed that both with me and roger that you like to take a swipe at people when theyre... I dont know the word. But you took the opportunity to take a swipe at my music for no reason while i was trying to figure out what to do about my blues. And then you take a swipe at roger when hes trying to figure out if his sense of humor still works here and such. Now yeah your kind of a dick so your going to swipe at people anyway. But can you just do us all a favor and butt the fuck out if someone is doing a bit of soul searching or legitimately trying to get some sort of understanding across?

You can still be a dick and not kick someone while theyre down.

I've been thinking about this, and my conclusion is this:  Get mad at the sun for rising.  Holist can't help being a vulture, it's his nature.  It's not what he does, it's what he IS.

Another reason for the pledge.

Sure.  He's a bottom feeder, he doesn't mean much.  He isn't the reason I was upset...Frankly, neither was the lack of response from the other board members.

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Juana

#101
November 30, 2012, 07:33:59 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 29, 2012, 06:25:46 PM
Quote from: FROTISTED FUDGE CAK on November 29, 2012, 06:13:39 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 29, 2012, 05:34:59 PM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on November 29, 2012, 04:58:03 PMno activism = no change in law

The above effectively states activism is the only way to change law.  But, if you don't actually mean that, then we agree.

Can you name a few ways of changing the law that don't involve taking action to promote change?

Actually getting into politics is a good start.  Harvey Milk was an activist, but not just an activist - he went farther.  And I don't mean to sound like I am disparaging activism, I just think its not the only way.
:lulz: do you know why he was able to get into politics? Because, gay or not, he was a white man. I hate to drag this back into the privilege debate, but if a person doesn't have the ability to get INTO the system to change it - like women and PoC historically have not been able to - or not able to get into the system enough to make a difference (trans* people and the poor, for example), activism is the only hope. Make some goddamn noise in groups, refuse to sit down and shut up, and spread information - that's how you make change if you don't have access.
American history would be radically different without activism. Do you like the fact that the ladies in your life have rights? That black people don't have to step off the side walk to let white people pass anymore and that a good old fashioned fag drag gets extra sentencing? That you have an eight hour day, safe working environment, benefits, and so on? If so, thank an activist.
And I gotta note, one of the ways minorities can *get* into the system to change it is by making enough noise and drawing enough attention to their situation to make more people sympathetic. How do you do that? Activism.
"I dispose of obsolete meat machines.  Not because I hate them (I do) and not because they deserve it (they do), but because they are in the way and those older ones don't meet emissions codes.  They emit too much.  You don't like them and I don't like them, so spare me the hysteria."

Nephew Twiddleton

#102
November 30, 2012, 07:34:11 PM
Could be both really. Could have been bullied then was able to grow a moustache and became one himself.
Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
Sentence or sentence fragment pending

Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS

Elder Iptuous

#103
November 30, 2012, 07:34:48 PM
sorry, Roger.  it seems you're in a more precarious space than i figured. any offense from action or inaction was unintentional.

The Good Reverend Roger

#104
November 30, 2012, 07:35:55 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on November 30, 2012, 07:34:48 PM
sorry, Roger.  it seems you're in a more precarious space than i figured. any offense from action or inaction was unintentional.

No worries.

But looking upthread, this is now about activism again, so I'm out of this thread entirely.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.
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