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Started by The Good Reverend Roger, December 04, 2012, 06:18:47 PM

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The Good Reverend Roger

I am not a communist.  I think everyone here knows that.  However, I've been spending a lot of time looking at numbers, both here and in Europe.  What I am seeing is a LARGER concentration of wealth - and a larger wealth gap - than existed in the early part of the last century.

The propaganda put forth on the Fear Box in everyone's living room has until recently fooled a great number of people into believing that the nation's financial woes are caused by people recieving welfare, food stamps, etc...However, the reality of the situation is actually beginning to sink in; that this was done TO us, on purpose, by a pack of bankers and "job creators" (I love that term).

Now, it is one thing to say "I baked my bread, I shall eat it".  It is another thing to say, "You baked that bread, I shall give it to Goldman Sachs".  When this is coupled to the idea of the "1%", a rather scary image begins to unfold.  One percent of 312 Mn people (3.12 Mn people) have taken damn near ALL the bread, and 99% of the people (308.08 Mn people) are left to poverty. 

You have 308,000,000 people either working for peanuts, or being raped on salary (at 80 hours + per week), or not working at all, while 1 person for every 10 of them lives like some kind of potentate.  The jackass who owns Papa John's Pizza, for example, whined about having to extend benefits to his employees, from his house, with attached 22 car garage.

That sort of shit would make JP Morgan blush...And where do you think that's going to end?

If I were Papa John (or hell, Mitt Romney), I'd be investing in very large numbers of armed guards.  Soon, before the demon I had created turned to rend me.

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"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Suu

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 04, 2012, 06:18:47 PM


If I were Papa John (or hell, Mitt Romney), I'd be investing in very large numbers of armed guards.  Soon, before the demon I had created turned to rend me.



That's assuming that Americans are actually willing to get off their asses and DO something.

I'm not saying protest or post meaningless fucking images on Facebook, I mean, FUCKING DO SOMETHING. Get up, raise the militia just like the 2nd Amendment everyone seems to love so much says you can, and take that step toward violent revolution.

You and I both know that the majority sit at home, staring at computer screens, and go, "Well, this sucks." While signing online petitions to the White House that are going ignored. Change, unfortunately, does not happen peacefully.
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I sometimes wonder what drives those on top to hoard like some sort of dragon on a mountain. Sure there's nothing wrong with trying to get more, but there comes a point where you have to weigh that against being a selfish prick because it's depriving others of their chance to get more.

And the hypocrisy is stunning. Using this John fellow again as an example, he gave away 1 million free pizzas last year, probably at a cost larger than would take to extend health benefits to his employees.

More and more, it seems that the job creators don't create jobs by actually creating new jobs. They create them by allowing the people currently occupying them to die off, laying them off in order to hire someone cheaper, or otherwise hoping that they'll eventually just move along to the next fiefdom.
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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Suu on December 04, 2012, 06:25:03 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 04, 2012, 06:18:47 PM


If I were Papa John (or hell, Mitt Romney), I'd be investing in very large numbers of armed guards.  Soon, before the demon I had created turned to rend me.



That's assuming that Americans are actually willing to get off their asses and DO something.

Occupy was a failed attempt, for many reasons.  I doubt the next go-round will be quite as civil.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cardinal Pizza Deliverance.

You know what would happen, Reverend, if you uttered such blasphemy around here?

"You jus don' understan polyticks. There's a SYSTEM for a REASON. GOD is watchin out fer us. You bein' not from aroun here are jus to bitter an negative an IGNORANT to see it."

Ask me how I know.

ETA, actually, it's not just Georgia. I got the same response in Iowa, when I was there.
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"The only way we can ever change anything is to look in the mirror and find no enemy." - Akala  'Find No Enemy'.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on December 04, 2012, 06:36:46 PM
You know what would happen, Reverend, if you uttered such blasphemy around here?

"You jus don' understan polyticks. There's a SYSTEM for a REASON. GOD is watchin out fer us. You bein' not from aroun here are jus to bitter an negative an IGNORANT to see it."

Ask me how I know.

I think I have a good idea, but go ahead.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cardinal Pizza Deliverance.

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 04, 2012, 06:37:31 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on December 04, 2012, 06:36:46 PM
You know what would happen, Reverend, if you uttered such blasphemy around here?

"You jus don' understan polyticks. There's a SYSTEM for a REASON. GOD is watchin out fer us. You bein' not from aroun here are jus to bitter an negative an IGNORANT to see it."

Ask me how I know.

I think I have a good idea, but go ahead.

First off, if you're a chick, they just blow you off because your pretty little head is too small to contain political thoughts AND those pretty fluttering birds that make up most of your other thoughts.

Second, since idiots travel in packs, there's usually five or six to agree with each other about how right they are, and there's only you so clearly you are wrong because you don't have a posse at your back.

Third, since you're working a job that pays less than their EBT or what their daddy or cousin or brother makes, then your opinions are invalid because you're just a shmuck and they're close to people or are people who are REALLY DOING SOMETHING.

And they're happy to tell you about this. And then sneer politely at you. Tell you how wrong you are, how tragic it is that you can be so deluded, despite the fact you can back up your arguments and they only have "Well that's just plain wrong, God / Daddy / Mitt Romney says so."

Then they turn in a sort of superior huffy way, spit their chawing tabaccy or their Jim Pye weed onto your clean floor and swan off to spread the GOSPEL and use your ignorance as an example of how far astray people can be led from the flock.

Welcome to the South.
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Hulking Dormouse of Lust and DESPAIR™
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"The only way we can ever change anything is to look in the mirror and find no enemy." - Akala  'Find No Enemy'.

Anna Mae Bollocks

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 04, 2012, 06:34:38 PM
Quote from: Suu on December 04, 2012, 06:25:03 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 04, 2012, 06:18:47 PM


If I were Papa John (or hell, Mitt Romney), I'd be investing in very large numbers of armed guards.  Soon, before the demon I had created turned to rend me.



That's assuming that Americans are actually willing to get off their asses and DO something.

Occupy was a failed attempt, for many reasons.  I doubt the next go-round will be quite as civil.

When enough of them have to sit there and watch their kids starve because they made a little too much during the LAST quarter to qualify for food stamps (even though they're in THIS quarter and it's realllllll slooooooow) and they can't ask the food pantry for expired pastries and canned green beans because it's only been a week since they went there last and you can only go once a month, I like to think at least a FEW of them will decide to rock out.
Scantily-Clad Inspector of Gigantic and Unnecessary Cashews, Texas Division

LMNO

First off, you might be pleased to see this:



For those with a nannywall, it shows that since making those stupid anti-obama pronouncements, Applebees, Dennys, and Papa Johns all lost money through sales.

Secondly, what do you think will happen if, by some miracle, the supposed turnaround actuall begins to be felt?  All economic indicators show movement out of the pit.  Will we settle back into our couches of complacency if things get better?

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on December 04, 2012, 06:45:46 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 04, 2012, 06:37:31 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on December 04, 2012, 06:36:46 PM
You know what would happen, Reverend, if you uttered such blasphemy around here?

"You jus don' understan polyticks. There's a SYSTEM for a REASON. GOD is watchin out fer us. You bein' not from aroun here are jus to bitter an negative an IGNORANT to see it."

Ask me how I know.

I think I have a good idea, but go ahead.

First off, if you're a chick, they just blow you off because your pretty little head is too small to contain political thoughts AND those pretty fluttering birds that make up most of your other thoughts.

Second, since idiots travel in packs, there's usually five or six to agree with each other about how right they are, and there's only you so clearly you are wrong because you don't have a posse at your back.

Third, since you're working a job that pays less than their EBT or what their daddy or cousin or brother makes, then your opinions are invalid because you're just a shmuck and they're close to people or are people who are REALLY DOING SOMETHING.

And they're happy to tell you about this. And then sneer politely at you. Tell you how wrong you are, how tragic it is that you can be so deluded, despite the fact you can back up your arguments and they only have "Well that's just plain wrong, God / Daddy / Mitt Romney says so."

Then they turn in a sort of superior huffy way, spit their chawing tabaccy or their Jim Pye weed onto your clean floor and swan off to spread the GOSPEL and use your ignorance as an example of how far astray people can be led from the flock.

Welcome to the South.

Yep.  About what I figured.  Give it 8 weeks.

Also, the real trouble is going to be Northeast, the entire West coast, Chicago, and the motor states.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on December 04, 2012, 06:48:29 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 04, 2012, 06:34:38 PM
Quote from: Suu on December 04, 2012, 06:25:03 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 04, 2012, 06:18:47 PM


If I were Papa John (or hell, Mitt Romney), I'd be investing in very large numbers of armed guards.  Soon, before the demon I had created turned to rend me.



That's assuming that Americans are actually willing to get off their asses and DO something.

Occupy was a failed attempt, for many reasons.  I doubt the next go-round will be quite as civil.

When enough of them have to sit there and watch their kids starve because they made a little too much during the LAST quarter to qualify for food stamps (even though they're in THIS quarter and it's realllllll slooooooow) and they can't ask the food pantry for expired pastries and canned green beans because it's only been a week since they went there last and you can only go once a month, I like to think at least a FEW of them will decide to rock out.

The entire concept, after the first week, was crap.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 04, 2012, 06:52:56 PM
First off, you might be pleased to see this:



For those with a nannywall, it shows that since making those stupid anti-obama pronouncements, Applebees, Dennys, and Papa Johns all lost money through sales.

Secondly, what do you think will happen if, by some miracle, the supposed turnaround actuall begins to be felt?  All economic indicators show movement out of the pit.  Will we settle back into our couches of complacency if things get better?

1.  Awesome.

2.  Yes.  But they won't.  8 weeks.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Anna Mae Bollocks

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 04, 2012, 06:54:10 PM
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on December 04, 2012, 06:48:29 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 04, 2012, 06:34:38 PM
Quote from: Suu on December 04, 2012, 06:25:03 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 04, 2012, 06:18:47 PM


If I were Papa John (or hell, Mitt Romney), I'd be investing in very large numbers of armed guards.  Soon, before the demon I had created turned to rend me.



That's assuming that Americans are actually willing to get off their asses and DO something.

Occupy was a failed attempt, for many reasons.  I doubt the next go-round will be quite as civil.

When enough of them have to sit there and watch their kids starve because they made a little too much during the LAST quarter to qualify for food stamps (even though they're in THIS quarter and it's realllllll slooooooow) and they can't ask the food pantry for expired pastries and canned green beans because it's only been a week since they went there last and you can only go once a month, I like to think at least a FEW of them will decide to rock out.

The entire concept, after the first week, was crap.

Occupy? Yeah. Gathering the hipster and "freethinker" tribes.
Scantily-Clad Inspector of Gigantic and Unnecessary Cashews, Texas Division

Cardinal Pizza Deliverance.

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 04, 2012, 06:53:23 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on December 04, 2012, 06:45:46 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 04, 2012, 06:37:31 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on December 04, 2012, 06:36:46 PM
You know what would happen, Reverend, if you uttered such blasphemy around here?

"You jus don' understan polyticks. There's a SYSTEM for a REASON. GOD is watchin out fer us. You bein' not from aroun here are jus to bitter an negative an IGNORANT to see it."

Ask me how I know.

I think I have a good idea, but go ahead.

First off, if you're a chick, they just blow you off because your pretty little head is too small to contain political thoughts AND those pretty fluttering birds that make up most of your other thoughts.

Second, since idiots travel in packs, there's usually five or six to agree with each other about how right they are, and there's only you so clearly you are wrong because you don't have a posse at your back.

Third, since you're working a job that pays less than their EBT or what their daddy or cousin or brother makes, then your opinions are invalid because you're just a shmuck and they're close to people or are people who are REALLY DOING SOMETHING.

And they're happy to tell you about this. And then sneer politely at you. Tell you how wrong you are, how tragic it is that you can be so deluded, despite the fact you can back up your arguments and they only have "Well that's just plain wrong, God / Daddy / Mitt Romney says so."

Then they turn in a sort of superior huffy way, spit their chawing tabaccy or their Jim Pye weed onto your clean floor and swan off to spread the GOSPEL and use your ignorance as an example of how far astray people can be led from the flock.

Welcome to the South.

Yep.  About what I figured.  Give it 8 weeks.

Also, the real trouble is going to be Northeast, the entire West coast, Chicago, and the motor states.

Well hopefully the hubbub dies down by the time we're ready to move to Oregon. :P
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"The only way we can ever change anything is to look in the mirror and find no enemy." - Akala  'Find No Enemy'.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on December 04, 2012, 06:56:23 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 04, 2012, 06:54:10 PM
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on December 04, 2012, 06:48:29 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 04, 2012, 06:34:38 PM
Quote from: Suu on December 04, 2012, 06:25:03 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 04, 2012, 06:18:47 PM


If I were Papa John (or hell, Mitt Romney), I'd be investing in very large numbers of armed guards.  Soon, before the demon I had created turned to rend me.



That's assuming that Americans are actually willing to get off their asses and DO something.

Occupy was a failed attempt, for many reasons.  I doubt the next go-round will be quite as civil.

When enough of them have to sit there and watch their kids starve because they made a little too much during the LAST quarter to qualify for food stamps (even though they're in THIS quarter and it's realllllll slooooooow) and they can't ask the food pantry for expired pastries and canned green beans because it's only been a week since they went there last and you can only go once a month, I like to think at least a FEW of them will decide to rock out.

The entire concept, after the first week, was crap.

Occupy? Yeah. Gathering the hipster and "freethinker" tribes.

The original concept of flash-mobbing congested business areas was GENIUS.  The first time they spent the night, it was all over but the crying.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.