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Shooting at CT Elementary School. WTF AMERICA?!

Started by Suu, December 14, 2012, 05:45:48 PM

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AFK

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 18, 2012, 12:34:18 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2012, 12:33:35 AM
Quote from: H0list on December 18, 2012, 12:26:09 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2012, 12:24:28 AM
There certainly isn't any upside, or need really, for people to own hand held rapid fire death machines.  Simly put, it this asshole didn't have an assault rifle, he would have killed less people.  There is absolutely no need for someone to own that kind of weaponry.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING?

AN ASSAULT RIFLE

ESPECIALLY THE KIND THAT WAS USED IS JUST A FUCKING SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE WITH A PISTOL GRIP!!!

HUNTERS USE SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLES TO HUNT!!!!

THE ONLY REASON IT IS AN "ASSAULT" RIFLE IS THE PRESENCE OF A FUCKING PISTOL GRIP!!!!!


People don't need semi-automatic weapons.

You don't need an automobile.  They kill way more people.  Get your ass on the bus.


There is no valid comparison between the utility of an automobile and the utility of a gun, for the average American.  Yes, automobiles kill but that is not their purpose.  The purpose of a gun is to kill. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Don Coyote

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 18, 2012, 12:34:18 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2012, 12:33:35 AM
Quote from: H0list on December 18, 2012, 12:26:09 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2012, 12:24:28 AM
There certainly isn't any upside, or need really, for people to own hand held rapid fire death machines.  Simly put, it this asshole didn't have an assault rifle, he would have killed less people.  There is absolutely no need for someone to own that kind of weaponry.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING?

AN ASSAULT RIFLE

ESPECIALLY THE KIND THAT WAS USED IS JUST A FUCKING SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE WITH A PISTOL GRIP!!!

HUNTERS USE SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLES TO HUNT!!!!

THE ONLY REASON IT IS AN "ASSAULT" RIFLE IS THE PRESENCE OF A FUCKING PISTOL GRIP!!!!!


People don't need semi-automatic weapons.

You don't need an automobile.  They kill way more people.  Get your ass on the bus.
But what if the TSA is there and they want to touch me looking for bombs?


Faust

Quote from: H0list on December 18, 2012, 12:35:15 AM
Quote from: Faust on December 18, 2012, 12:28:33 AM

1) Guns are vulgarscary, people are terrible I don't like them.
2) Get rid of guns and people will stop killing each other as much. Reduce peoples access to weapons that make killing easier, reduce killing. Without guns people would politely slap each other when they became cross with one another.
Yes, I don't like guns, I'm sorry if I gave an impression to the contrary (all the guns for Faust, none for anyone else all for me).
Without guns people would stab, punch or club, or bomb each other. Some of those result in less deaths because of the speed and ease, others more but require more preperation..
Sleepless nights at the chateau

Don Coyote

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2012, 12:37:45 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 18, 2012, 12:34:18 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2012, 12:33:35 AM
Quote from: H0list on December 18, 2012, 12:26:09 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2012, 12:24:28 AM
There certainly isn't any upside, or need really, for people to own hand held rapid fire death machines.  Simly put, it this asshole didn't have an assault rifle, he would have killed less people.  There is absolutely no need for someone to own that kind of weaponry.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING?

AN ASSAULT RIFLE

ESPECIALLY THE KIND THAT WAS USED IS JUST A FUCKING SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE WITH A PISTOL GRIP!!!

HUNTERS USE SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLES TO HUNT!!!!

THE ONLY REASON IT IS AN "ASSAULT" RIFLE IS THE PRESENCE OF A FUCKING PISTOL GRIP!!!!!


People don't need semi-automatic weapons.

You don't need an automobile.  They kill way more people.  Get your ass on the bus.


There is no valid comparison between the utility of an automobile and the utility of a gun, for the average American.  Yes, automobiles kill but that is not their purpose.  The purpose of a gun is to kill.

I guess in magical land, the intent behind the device is divorce from the realities surrounding how that device functions in this world. A world that I should mention, in which automobiles kill people. A lot of people. More frequently.

But it is totally ok that people die because of cars, because cars aren't supposed to kill people.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2012, 12:37:45 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 18, 2012, 12:34:18 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2012, 12:33:35 AM
Quote from: H0list on December 18, 2012, 12:26:09 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2012, 12:24:28 AM
There certainly isn't any upside, or need really, for people to own hand held rapid fire death machines.  Simly put, it this asshole didn't have an assault rifle, he would have killed less people.  There is absolutely no need for someone to own that kind of weaponry.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING?

AN ASSAULT RIFLE

ESPECIALLY THE KIND THAT WAS USED IS JUST A FUCKING SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE WITH A PISTOL GRIP!!!

HUNTERS USE SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLES TO HUNT!!!!

THE ONLY REASON IT IS AN "ASSAULT" RIFLE IS THE PRESENCE OF A FUCKING PISTOL GRIP!!!!!


People don't need semi-automatic weapons.

You don't need an automobile.  They kill way more people.  Get your ass on the bus.


There is no valid comparison between the utility of an automobile and the utility of a gun, for the average American.  Yes, automobiles kill but that is not their purpose.  The purpose of a gun is to kill.

Tell that to your average drunken driver.  Or the dumbfuck texting while driving.  Or better yet, explain it to the families of the victims.

And the purpose of a gun is to walk up into Reddington Pass and blow the hell out of a bag of tin cans.  Or to enjoy the Santa Ritas without worrying about crazy fucking bears or even crazier javalina packs.

But what do I know?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Faust

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2012, 12:37:45 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 18, 2012, 12:34:18 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2012, 12:33:35 AM
Quote from: H0list on December 18, 2012, 12:26:09 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2012, 12:24:28 AM
There certainly isn't any upside, or need really, for people to own hand held rapid fire death machines.  Simly put, it this asshole didn't have an assault rifle, he would have killed less people.  There is absolutely no need for someone to own that kind of weaponry.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING?

AN ASSAULT RIFLE

ESPECIALLY THE KIND THAT WAS USED IS JUST A FUCKING SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE WITH A PISTOL GRIP!!!

HUNTERS USE SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLES TO HUNT!!!!

THE ONLY REASON IT IS AN "ASSAULT" RIFLE IS THE PRESENCE OF A FUCKING PISTOL GRIP!!!!!


People don't need semi-automatic weapons.

You don't need an automobile.  They kill way more people.  Get your ass on the bus.


There is no valid comparison between the utility of an automobile and the utility of a gun, for the average American.  Yes, automobiles kill but that is not their purpose.  The purpose of a gun is to kill.
Now this is an interesting one, because automobile death is outrageously high and isn't going to improve because the only way to improve it is restrict the vehicles or make the drivers more responsible which of course will never happen.
What makes it more acceptable?... Not much. Only that modern civilisation has its transport integrally linked to automobiles, without guns it doesn't really bring anything to a standstill.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

The Good Reverend Roger

All automobile deaths in the USA, 2011:  34,485 (includes involvement by law enforcement)
All Firearm deaths in the USA, 2011:  31,347 (includes involvement by law enforcement)

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Don Coyote

Quote from: Faust on December 18, 2012, 12:39:23 AM
Quote from: H0list on December 18, 2012, 12:35:15 AM
Quote from: Faust on December 18, 2012, 12:28:33 AM

1) Guns are vulgarscary, people are terrible I don't like them.
2) Get rid of guns and people will stop killing each other as much. Reduce peoples access to weapons that make killing easier, reduce killing. Without guns people would politely slap each other when they became cross with one another.
Yes, I don't like guns, I'm sorry if I gave an impression to the contrary (all the guns for Faust, none for anyone else all for me).
Without guns people would stab, punch or club, or bomb each other. Some of those result in less deaths because of the speed and ease, others more but require more preperation..

Oh no. It's rather apparent that you don't like guns, but to me that speaks of "stop liking what i don't like" or "that is scary and not fun for me, so you can't do it either"

Oh and guess in magical no guns land, there is no way to make explosives.

AFK

Quote from: H0list on December 18, 2012, 12:40:51 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2012, 12:37:45 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 18, 2012, 12:34:18 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2012, 12:33:35 AM
Quote from: H0list on December 18, 2012, 12:26:09 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2012, 12:24:28 AM
There certainly isn't any upside, or need really, for people to own hand held rapid fire death machines.  Simly put, it this asshole didn't have an assault rifle, he would have killed less people.  There is absolutely no need for someone to own that kind of weaponry.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING?

AN ASSAULT RIFLE

ESPECIALLY THE KIND THAT WAS USED IS JUST A FUCKING SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE WITH A PISTOL GRIP!!!

HUNTERS USE SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLES TO HUNT!!!!

THE ONLY REASON IT IS AN "ASSAULT" RIFLE IS THE PRESENCE OF A FUCKING PISTOL GRIP!!!!!


People don't need semi-automatic weapons.

You don't need an automobile.  They kill way more people.  Get your ass on the bus.


There is no valid comparison between the utility of an automobile and the utility of a gun, for the average American.  Yes, automobiles kill but that is not their purpose.  The purpose of a gun is to kill.

I guess in magical land, the intent behind the device is divorce from the realities surrounding how that device functions in this world. A world that I should mention, in which automobiles kill people. A lot of people. More frequently.

But it is totally ok that people die because of cars, because cars aren't supposed to kill people.


It's not okay, but there would be far more damage to society if you outlawed motor vehicles, commerce, for example, kind of depends on it.  Society would be far less damaged, and I hold improved, if citizens had markedly reduced access to guns, especially automatic weapons.
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Faust on December 18, 2012, 12:43:10 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2012, 12:37:45 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 18, 2012, 12:34:18 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2012, 12:33:35 AM
Quote from: H0list on December 18, 2012, 12:26:09 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2012, 12:24:28 AM
There certainly isn't any upside, or need really, for people to own hand held rapid fire death machines.  Simly put, it this asshole didn't have an assault rifle, he would have killed less people.  There is absolutely no need for someone to own that kind of weaponry.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING?

AN ASSAULT RIFLE

ESPECIALLY THE KIND THAT WAS USED IS JUST A FUCKING SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE WITH A PISTOL GRIP!!!

HUNTERS USE SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLES TO HUNT!!!!

THE ONLY REASON IT IS AN "ASSAULT" RIFLE IS THE PRESENCE OF A FUCKING PISTOL GRIP!!!!!


People don't need semi-automatic weapons.

You don't need an automobile.  They kill way more people.  Get your ass on the bus.


There is no valid comparison between the utility of an automobile and the utility of a gun, for the average American.  Yes, automobiles kill but that is not their purpose.  The purpose of a gun is to kill.
Now this is an interesting one, because automobile death is outrageously high and isn't going to improve because the only way to improve it is restrict the vehicles or make the drivers more responsible which of course will never happen.
What makes it more acceptable?... Not much. Only that modern civilisation has its transport integrally linked to automobiles, without guns it doesn't really bring anything to a standstill.

Light rail.
Bus.
Urban transit in other forms.

Or better yet, go back to horses.  Nobody needs a car.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2012, 12:45:11 AM

It's not okay, but there would be far more damage to society if you outlawed motor vehicles, commerce, for example, kind of depends on it.  Society would be far less damaged, and I hold improved, if citizens had markedly reduced access to guns, especially automatic weapons.

Guns aren't heating the planet up.  But, hey, anything for convenience, right?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Faust

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 18, 2012, 12:45:30 AM
Quote from: Faust on December 18, 2012, 12:43:10 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2012, 12:37:45 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 18, 2012, 12:34:18 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2012, 12:33:35 AM
Quote from: H0list on December 18, 2012, 12:26:09 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2012, 12:24:28 AM
There certainly isn't any upside, or need really, for people to own hand held rapid fire death machines.  Simly put, it this asshole didn't have an assault rifle, he would have killed less people.  There is absolutely no need for someone to own that kind of weaponry.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING?

AN ASSAULT RIFLE

ESPECIALLY THE KIND THAT WAS USED IS JUST A FUCKING SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE WITH A PISTOL GRIP!!!

HUNTERS USE SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLES TO HUNT!!!!

THE ONLY REASON IT IS AN "ASSAULT" RIFLE IS THE PRESENCE OF A FUCKING PISTOL GRIP!!!!!


People don't need semi-automatic weapons.

You don't need an automobile.  They kill way more people.  Get your ass on the bus.


There is no valid comparison between the utility of an automobile and the utility of a gun, for the average American.  Yes, automobiles kill but that is not their purpose.  The purpose of a gun is to kill.
Now this is an interesting one, because automobile death is outrageously high and isn't going to improve because the only way to improve it is restrict the vehicles or make the drivers more responsible which of course will never happen.
What makes it more acceptable?... Not much. Only that modern civilisation has its transport integrally linked to automobiles, without guns it doesn't really bring anything to a standstill.

Light rail.
Bus.
Urban transit in other forms.

Or better yet, go back to horses.  Nobody needs a car.
That sounds awesome, I'm all for it. Lets do that.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

AFK

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 18, 2012, 12:41:33 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2012, 12:37:45 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 18, 2012, 12:34:18 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2012, 12:33:35 AM
Quote from: H0list on December 18, 2012, 12:26:09 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2012, 12:24:28 AM
There certainly isn't any upside, or need really, for people to own hand held rapid fire death machines.  Simly put, it this asshole didn't have an assault rifle, he would have killed less people.  There is absolutely no need for someone to own that kind of weaponry.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING?

AN ASSAULT RIFLE

ESPECIALLY THE KIND THAT WAS USED IS JUST A FUCKING SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE WITH A PISTOL GRIP!!!

HUNTERS USE SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLES TO HUNT!!!!

THE ONLY REASON IT IS AN "ASSAULT" RIFLE IS THE PRESENCE OF A FUCKING PISTOL GRIP!!!!!


People don't need semi-automatic weapons.

You don't need an automobile.  They kill way more people.  Get your ass on the bus.


There is no valid comparison between the utility of an automobile and the utility of a gun, for the average American.  Yes, automobiles kill but that is not their purpose.  The purpose of a gun is to kill.

Tell that to your average drunken driver.  Or the dumbfuck texting while driving.  Or better yet, explain it to the families of the victims.

And the purpose of a gun is to walk up into Reddington Pass and blow the hell out of a bag of tin cans.  Or to enjoy the Santa Ritas without worrying about crazy fucking bears or even crazier javalina packs.

But what do I know?


That's your purpose, unfortunately there are those who use it to put 11 rounds in a 5 year old.  Sorry if it makes me a bad person but I'm perfectly willing to restrict your access to automatic weapons if it means less dead 5 year olds.
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Faust on December 18, 2012, 12:46:44 AM

That sounds awesome, I'm all for it. Lets do that.

Sure, I'll just write my congressman, we'll have it fixed at the same time we outlaw guns.

Which would be the week after never.  Enjoy your superheated planet.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

AFK

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 18, 2012, 12:46:19 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2012, 12:45:11 AM

It's not okay, but there would be far more damage to society if you outlawed motor vehicles, commerce, for example, kind of depends on it.  Society would be far less damaged, and I hold improved, if citizens had markedly reduced access to guns, especially automatic weapons.

Guns aren't heating the planet up.  But, hey, anything for convenience, right?


So we make better cars that don't do that. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.