Define "metal".

[AFK]

Gospel Metal, from one Mr. Devin Townsend


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StSalE00cAA

Those two words do not belong next to each other. They do not belong in the same sentence. In fact, they don't even belong in the same fucking dictionary 

Normally I would agree, but Devin makes it work.  Of course, he's anti-organized religion, so it is Gospel only in musical style, not necessarily content.

[AFK]

Gospel Metal, from one Mr. Devin Townsend


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StSalE00cAA

Those two words do not belong next to each other. They do not belong in the same sentence. In fact, they don't even belong in the same fucking dictionary 

I seem to remember some "metal" band that 14-16 year old girls liked called "HIM." A rather cute Russian former coworker described them as "Love Metal" I was happy when she said "I don't listen to them anymore."

Townsend has become very zen since he's been sober.  And I have to say, it takes some balls, I think, to take the Metal genre and use it to create crushing music about Love.  Most of the metal kids aren't going to go for that.  He's alienated a lot of the fans who were big into Strapping Young Lad,  I think that's a pretty Metal career move if you ask me.

[Junkenstein]

I saw Devin with Fear Factory not long ago.

There was a bigger crowd for him than FF, and from the various fans I know none have been alienated by his newer stuff.

I've found that he's one of these oddities that if you like one album, you'll pretty much give anything they do a listen. May not like it all but it certainly averages out in your favour either way.

[AFK]

I just ordered the last album he released, Epicloud which is where that song in the link comes from.  It's unabashedly positive, and I really like it.  Apparently, the album he's currently working on, called "Casualties of Cool" is going to be, his version, of dark old-school country ala Johnny Cash.  It's supposed to be out in March.

[East Coast Hustle]

I respect Devin Townsend immensely, he's like a heavier Mike Patton, but unlike Mike Patton nothing he's done has ever really grabbed me. SYL was cool, but it didn't fill a need for me. Plus, he's from Canada and you just can't trust them.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Also, I hope the devil's real so someone can be punished for that heartogram thing.

I just googled that shit and now I fucking hate you and Finland in equal measure 

Hey, I'm just pointing out that such things need punishing.

[EK WAFFLR]

Also, I hope the devil's real so someone can be punished for that heartogram thing.

I just googled that shit and now I fucking hate you and Finland in equal measure 

Hey, I'm just pointing out that such things need punishing.

TWO of my exes has Heartagram tattoos.
And no, they weren't. They were worse.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Also, I hope the devil's real so someone can be punished for that heartogram thing.

I just googled that shit and now I fucking hate you and Finland in equal measure 

Hey, I'm just pointing out that such things need punishing.

TWO of my exes has Heartagram tattoos.
And no, they weren't. They were worse.

Weren't what and how were they worse?

[EK WAFFLR]

Horrible. 

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Horrible. 

I'm not following you dude.

[EK WAFFLR]

Horrible. 

I'm not following you dude.

They weren't horrible little emo shits, they were worse

[Cain]

HIM were so bad their music was used for a Highlander anime film.

No joke.

On April 14, 2003, HIM released Love Metal. This was the first album that did not feature singer/songwriter Ville Valo on the cover. Instead, it features a gold heartagram, the band's well-known logo. "The Funeral of Hearts" was the first single released and their first high appearance on the United Kingdom charts at #14, and also hitting #3 in Germany. It was followed by "Buried Alive By Love" and "The Sacrament". "The Sacrament" was used as the ending for the anime film Highlander: The Search for Vengeance.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Horrible. 

I'm not following you dude.

They weren't horrible little emo shits, they were worse

Ahhhhh...

[Nephew Twiddleton]

HIM were so bad their music was used for a Highlander anime film.

No joke.

On April 14, 2003, HIM released Love Metal. This was the first album that did not feature singer/songwriter Ville Valo on the cover. Instead, it features a gold heartagram, the band's well-known logo. "The Funeral of Hearts" was the first single released and their first high appearance on the United Kingdom charts at #14, and also hitting #3 in Germany. It was followed by "Buried Alive By Love" and "The Sacrament". "The Sacrament" was used as the ending for the anime film Highlander: The Search for Vengeance.

It may not be a joke but I'm still laughing.

[zen_magick]

Metal is not easy to define anymore nor is any other musical genre.

The corporate pricks have really trashed radio (Clear Channel) and if you think Pandora or any other internet music site isn't as bad just listen for a whole day.

Being somewhat of a white trash street kid from back in the day (meaning I now have grey chest hair and I'm not shaving it!)

I find good ROCK or METAL music is a scarce commodity.

Slipknot equals great metal but too many people in the band means we may never see another album (ok. cd). The spin off Stone Sour is good but their new "concept" albums way miss the mark. Screw your comic book tie ins you wankers.

Five Finger Death Punch - probably the best metal or just rock band at the moment. In an interview the band members were talking about making the last album and they said something isn't right with the lyrics on this track. One guy says "Oh, Ivan isn't pissed off" so another band mate says "Well get in there and piss him off".

Then there are just the favorites that keep giving ya what you want. Cradle of Filth's new disc is great at the end if it I just wanted it to go on and you can't get much better than that.

Trying to narrow down a description of metal to a formula is what the record companies what us to do...so they can market us all the better

but I'm kinda drunk so feel free to ignore this post because I'm gonna forget it before I hit the bed

Z_M