Define "metal".

[East Coast Hustle]

Wait, you think Slipknot is METAL?

Seriously?

It's not so much that they're really terrible (they are), but that they're just heavy pop for angsty kids. Their very first album was pretty good. Heavy. had a tinge of thrash to it. Then they started to get a little popular so they went back and remastered and completely reissued the first album to be LESS HEAVY. That is so NOT METAL. Lemmy would never do something like that.

Also, Stone Sour isn't even rock. It's John Mayer for kids who hate John Mayer. And FFDP started out at the high end of mediocre, tied that godawful cover of "Bad Company" to their ankles, and dived straight off the mediocre cliff into the sea of bad radio pop rock. I mean, if you're gonna talk about how badly Clear Channel has fucked it up for everyone, shouldn't you at least list some bands that are not staples of Clear Channel-owned "rock" stations? There's no meaningful difference between Slipknot and Nickelback.

[AFK]

Metal is not easy to define anymore nor is any other musical genre.

The corporate pricks have really trashed radio (Clear Channel) and if you think Pandora or any other internet music site isn't as bad just listen for a whole day.

Being somewhat of a white trash street kid from back in the day (meaning I now have grey chest hair and I'm not shaving it!)

I find good ROCK or METAL music is a scarce commodity.

Slipknot equals great metal but too many people in the band means we may never see another album (ok. cd). The spin off Stone Sour is good but their new "concept" albums way miss the mark. Screw your comic book tie ins you wankers.

Five Finger Death Punch - probably the best metal or just rock band at the moment. In an interview the band members were talking about making the last album and they said something isn't right with the lyrics on this track. One guy says "Oh, Ivan isn't pissed off" so another band mate says "Well get in there and piss him off".

Then there are just the favorites that keep giving ya what you want. Cradle of Filth's new disc is great at the end if it I just wanted it to go on and you can't get much better than that.

Trying to narrow down a description of metal to a formula is what the record companies what us to do...so they can market us all the better

but I'm kinda drunk so feel free to ignore this post because I'm gonna forget it before I hit the bed

Z_M

How can you trash corporate pricks and then name-off three of the most commercially driven bands in metal?  Cradle of Filth is like the McDonald's of black metal.  FFDP is totally a corporate rock product.  Slipknot is just plain terrible, and also, IMO, a very commercially driven band.

[LMNO]

I have to say, the idea of three drummers in a band is an interesting one.  Then again, both the Grateful Dead and the Doobie Brothers proved that it's not always that great.

[AFK]

It certainly isn't without its repercussions. 

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Lemmy would never do something like that.

This should be newsfeed.   

[zen_magick]

Wait, you think Slipknot is METAL?

Seriously?

It's not so much that they're really terrible (they are), but that they're just heavy pop for angsty kids. Their very first album was pretty good. Heavy. had a tinge of thrash to it. Then they started to get a little popular so they went back and remastered and completely reissued the first album to be LESS HEAVY. That is so NOT METAL. Lemmy would never do something like that.

Also, Stone Sour isn't even rock. It's John Mayer for kids who hate John Mayer. And FFDP started out at the high end of mediocre, tied that godawful cover of "Bad Company" to their ankles, and dived straight off the mediocre cliff into the sea of bad radio pop rock. I mean, if you're gonna talk about how badly Clear Channel has fucked it up for everyone, shouldn't you at least list some bands that are not staples of Clear Channel-owned "rock" stations? There's no meaningful difference between Slipknot and Nickelback.

Wow! Hate much?

People mention Johnny Cash and Elton John as Metal and not a peep. I say a word and its STOMP time.
And the difference between Slipknot and Nickelback is as apparent as the difference between Lemmy and Lenny Kravitz.

Oh and I'm queer if you want to beat me up over that as well.

Sorry for pissing in your cheerios.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Wait, you think Slipknot is METAL?

Seriously?

It's not so much that they're really terrible (they are), but that they're just heavy pop for angsty kids. Their very first album was pretty good. Heavy. had a tinge of thrash to it. Then they started to get a little popular so they went back and remastered and completely reissued the first album to be LESS HEAVY. That is so NOT METAL. Lemmy would never do something like that.

Also, Stone Sour isn't even rock. It's John Mayer for kids who hate John Mayer. And FFDP started out at the high end of mediocre, tied that godawful cover of "Bad Company" to their ankles, and dived straight off the mediocre cliff into the sea of bad radio pop rock. I mean, if you're gonna talk about how badly Clear Channel has fucked it up for everyone, shouldn't you at least list some bands that are not staples of Clear Channel-owned "rock" stations? There's no meaningful difference between Slipknot and Nickelback.

Wow! Hate much?

People mention Johnny Cash and Elton John as Metal and not a peep. I say a word and its STOMP time.
And the difference between Slipknot and Nickelback is as apparent as the difference between Lemmy and Lenny Kravitz.

Oh and I'm queer if you want to beat me up over that as well.

Sorry for pissing in your cheerios.

I think you might need to recheck the definitions of metal being used, if you don't think Johnny Cash and Elton John are metal. It's not your fault for missing threads, but it isn't anyone else's either so you might want to be less pissy about it.

[Eater of Clowns]

BUTTHURT - STILL NOT METAL

[zen_magick]

Wow, after a cool down period I realized that I thought I knew about all of the buttons that can set me off.

Oh, so, so wrong, "cosmic schmuck" principle wins again.

And music of all things, eh gads... does it matter at all? Nope. Whatever makes ya happy when you listen wins in the end.

So i apologize for taking anything seriously I really should know better.

And Neil Diamond is METAL as fuck!

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

BUTTHURT - STILL NOT METAL

NOT EVEN ONCE.

[East Coast Hustle]

Wait, you think Slipknot is METAL?

Seriously?

It's not so much that they're really terrible (they are), but that they're just heavy pop for angsty kids. Their very first album was pretty good. Heavy. had a tinge of thrash to it. Then they started to get a little popular so they went back and remastered and completely reissued the first album to be LESS HEAVY. That is so NOT METAL. Lemmy would never do something like that.

Also, Stone Sour isn't even rock. It's John Mayer for kids who hate John Mayer. And FFDP started out at the high end of mediocre, tied that godawful cover of "Bad Company" to their ankles, and dived straight off the mediocre cliff into the sea of bad radio pop rock. I mean, if you're gonna talk about how badly Clear Channel has fucked it up for everyone, shouldn't you at least list some bands that are not staples of Clear Channel-owned "rock" stations? There's no meaningful difference between Slipknot and Nickelback.

Wow! Hate much?

People mention Johnny Cash and Elton John as Metal and not a peep. I say a word and its STOMP time.
And the difference between Slipknot and Nickelback is as apparent as the difference between Lemmy and Lenny Kravitz.

Oh and I'm queer if you want to beat me up over that as well.

Sorry for pissing in your cheerios.

Johnny Cash is 1000 times more metal than Slipknot could ever aspire to be. So, for that matter, is Elton John.

And...

Oh and I'm queer if you want to beat me up over that as well

Really?

So because I pooped on your precious little collection of mall-metal I'm probably also a homophobe?

Or is it that because I pooped on your precious little collection of mall-metal you've suffered catastrophic stern damage and the only way you can see to save this sinking ship is to play the cheapest victim card at your disposal, regardless of context?

Either way, I laugh at your butthurt. Like this ---->

And I'll tell you what's sure as HELL not metal and that's getting wound up into a tizzy by some jackass on the internet voicing his jackass opinion of the bands you like.

[zen_magick]

ECH

I already had apologized (in this thread) for getting my drunken panties in a twist. So no need to kick a dead horse. But if you have any suggestions for new, recent, metal that you think we should check out I'm all ears and would appreciate it.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Either way, I laugh at your butthurt. Like this ---->

This made me laugh so much a little bit of pee came out. 

[AFK]

ECH

I already had apologized (in this thread) for getting my drunken panties in a twist. So no need to kick a dead horse. But if you have any suggestions for new, recent, metal that you think we should check out I'm all ears and would appreciate it.

Moonsorrow
Primordial
Finntroll

[East Coast Hustle]

ECH

I already had apologized (in this thread) for getting my drunken panties in a twist. So no need to kick a dead horse. But if you have any suggestions for new, recent, metal that you think we should check out I'm all ears and would appreciate it.

Shatter Silence
Ghost Brigade
Machinae Supremacy
Parkway Drive

IMO (and obviously this is wicked subjective shit here), Parkway Drive's new album "Atlas" is the best metal album I've heard in a very long time.