Unlimited "Guns, Fuck Yeah!" Thread

[Cain]

In France, you need a licence.  8 different categories of gun, based on whether they are of a military design etc etc, basically, you can have semi-automatics with clip sizes of 10 or less, if you get a licence in the first place.

In Switzerland, everyone doing military service is required to own a gun, but the ammo for these weapons is kept on base.  Otherwise, gun ownership is licenced.  Only singleshot or semiautomatic long arms do not require a licence, which involves a psychiatric and criminal background check, the vendor must notify the local arms bureau of the sale, however.  Fully automatic weapons, certain burst fire weapons and accesories like silencers are banned from sale.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

In France, you need a licence.  8 different categories of gun, based on whether they are of a military design etc etc, basically, you can have semi-automatics with clip sizes of 10 or less, if you get a licence in the first place.

In Switzerland, everyone doing military service is required to own a gun, but the ammo for these weapons is kept on base.  Otherwise, gun ownership is licenced.  Only singleshot or semiautomatic long arms do not require a licence, which involves a psychiatric and criminal background check, the vendor must notify the local arms bureau of the sale, however.  Fully automatic weapons, certain burst fire weapons and accesories like silencers are banned from sale.

Unless you're in the battle of Stalingrad, fully-automatic weapons are for fucking bozos, anyway.  They're utterly useless.

[Cain]

Yeah, I can't really see a non-combat role for them....maybe for exceptionally lazy, rich hunters.  That aside...

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Yeah, I can't really see a non-combat role for them....maybe for exceptionally lazy, rich hunters.  That aside...

Even in combat, they're shit unless they're bipod or tripod mounted, or unless the very short term goal is to throw as much lead up in the air as you can...Commonly called a "mad minute", and that usually means you're fucked proper, and will shortly be as dead as yesterday's fish sandwich.

[Freeky]

http://www.imgur.com/8y9USiQ.jpeg

Alty, this is the best, most amazing picture I have ever seen.   

[Salty]

When PD gives you a pantsing, they do it in the bowels.

My position is largely that this debate (at large, not this thread specifically) is an exceedingly effective distraction from people who do bad things for money, and will ultimately change nothing in America except perhaps the ease with which people get away with theft on a grand scale.

What would change that? Little baby Jesus singing from the rafter?

Should certain guns be banned? Man, I don't know. I just know we are going to eat each other with whatever tools are available. I'm gun agnostic, I guess.

ETA: I guess my main concern is I don't want anyone chipping away at the bill of rights because they think this or that for any reason. That's one hell of a slippery slope. That why that shit exists, so people can't come along and change how Americans should be free. There's enough of that going around.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

"Shall not be infringed".

I think you can make an argument about the 2nd Amendment being ill-advised, but arguments about what it actually SAYS are, well, stupid.

[P3nT4gR4m]

"Shall not be infringed".

I think you can make an argument about the 2nd Amendment being ill-advised, but arguments about what it actually SAYS are, well, stupid.

US Constitution is like any other ancient religious text - can be interpreted practically any way you need it to. In it's favour it does seem to get edited a lot more than most so at least some bits might be vaguely relevant in a contemporary context.

[zen_magick]

When it comes to Sandy Hook,

The mother owned the guns because she was FRIGHTENED of her own son. The movie theater shooter's mother's first response was "You have the right person". This implies known psychological problems and a lack of action due to parents.

Should we be looking at responsible parenting and not guns?

Just asking

You're talking out your ass.

No one knows why the mother owned the guns, or, in fact, for certain whether they were hers.

She got the kid plenty of mental health help.

There is no evidence that indicates she should have known this was going to happen.

The emphasis on the mother knowing was for the Colorado incident. And from now on if i give a shit I will add the links so you know its from our local media and not my ass. Then you can deconstruct the media from your holy than thou mentality.

And Income Disparity really!  Give StarHawk a hug from me as you support another nebulous idea that made exactly how much of a difference with the Occupy Movement?

Oh what we fixed the world and I missed it? 

[Pæs]

When it comes to Sandy Hook,

The mother owned the guns because she was FRIGHTENED of her own son. The movie theater shooter's mother's first response was "You have the right person". This implies known psychological problems and a lack of action due to parents.

Should we be looking at responsible parenting and not guns?

Just asking

You're talking out your ass.

No one knows why the mother owned the guns, or, in fact, for certain whether they were hers.

She got the kid plenty of mental health help.

There is no evidence that indicates she should have known this was going to happen.

The emphasis on the mother knowing was for the Colorado incident. And from now on if i give a shit I will add the links so you know its from our local media and not my ass. Then you can deconstruct the media from your holy than thou mentality.

And Income Disparity really!  Give StarHawk a hug from me as you support another nebulous idea that made exactly how much of a difference with the Occupy Movement?

Oh what we fixed the world and I missed it? 

wat

[East Coast Hustle]

When it comes to Sandy Hook,

The mother owned the guns because she was FRIGHTENED of her own son. The movie theater shooter's mother's first response was "You have the right person". This implies known psychological problems and a lack of action due to parents.

Should we be looking at responsible parenting and not guns?

Just asking

You're talking out your ass.

No one knows why the mother owned the guns, or, in fact, for certain whether they were hers.

She got the kid plenty of mental health help.

There is no evidence that indicates she should have known this was going to happen.

The emphasis on the mother knowing was for the Colorado incident. And from now on if i give a shit I will add the links so you know its from our local media and not my ass. Then you can deconstruct the media from your holy than thou mentality.

And Income Disparity really!  Give StarHawk a hug from me as you support another nebulous idea that made exactly how much of a difference with the Occupy Movement?

Oh what we fixed the world and I missed it? 

Derp?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

When it comes to Sandy Hook,

The mother owned the guns because she was FRIGHTENED of her own son. The movie theater shooter's mother's first response was "You have the right person". This implies known psychological problems and a lack of action due to parents.

Should we be looking at responsible parenting and not guns?

Just asking

You're talking out your ass.

No one knows why the mother owned the guns, or, in fact, for certain whether they were hers.

She got the kid plenty of mental health help.

There is no evidence that indicates she should have known this was going to happen.

The emphasis on the mother knowing was for the Colorado incident. And from now on if i give a shit I will add the links so you know its from our local media and not my ass. Then you can deconstruct the media from your holy than thou mentality.

And Income Disparity really!  Give StarHawk a hug from me as you support another nebulous idea that made exactly how much of a difference with the Occupy Movement?

Oh what we fixed the world and I missed it? 

So, because the underlying problem is hard or nearly impossible to fix, we should pretend it's not there?

[Cain]

Indeed.

I mean, it's not like there are any other countries in the world which have less income disparity than the USA.  The US is a world leader in equality, which is why, according to the CIA factbook, it's Gini coefficient puts it 77th in the world, behind almost all industralised countries and roughly on a par with former banana republics like Venezuela, Nicaragua and Guyana.

Problem clearly can't be solved.

[Elder Iptuous]

Paes,
i would change my mind on the topic if:

- i were guaranteed that the police were required (let alone able) to keep me safe, and there was no need to consider protecting myself.  (But they are aren't)
- i were guaranteed that the US govt. was somehow immune to falling into tyranny.  i'm not one of the nutters that say this has already happened, but i sure think the trajectory is pointed in that direction.
- i were convinced that blowing things up and firing stuff at high energy were not incredibly exhilarating.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

When it comes to Sandy Hook,

The mother owned the guns because she was FRIGHTENED of her own son. The movie theater shooter's mother's first response was "You have the right person". This implies known psychological problems and a lack of action due to parents.

Should we be looking at responsible parenting and not guns?

Just asking

You're talking out your ass.

No one knows why the mother owned the guns, or, in fact, for certain whether they were hers.

She got the kid plenty of mental health help.

There is no evidence that indicates she should have known this was going to happen.

The emphasis on the mother knowing was for the Colorado incident. And from now on if i give a shit I will add the links so you know its from our local media and not my ass. Then you can deconstruct the media from your holy than thou mentality.

And Income Disparity really!  Give StarHawk a hug from me as you support another nebulous idea that made exactly how much of a difference with the Occupy Movement?

Oh what we fixed the world and I missed it? 

I have nothing to say.