Unlimited "Guns, Fuck Yeah!" Thread

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

And we're back to RWHN being the REASONABLE GUY.

Once anyone stops hollering at him, he'll go back to needling people.  Set your fucking watch by it.

You really think I care what you, ECH, and Nigel think about me?  Really?  Holler away, I can assure you I'll be fine. 

I think you care a great deal.  Otherwise, you wouldn't have lied about your job.

What did I miss? 

[The Good Reverend Roger]

BRILLIANT!



DATES ARE FUNNY THINGS.

[P3nT4gR4m]

What happened in the 90's? Free bullets? 

[Don Coyote]

So ban handguns.

[AFK]

I agree!

[Cain]

What happened in the 90's? Free bullets? 

Recession started in 1987.  Technical recovery began in 1993, turning into an actual economic recovery in 1994.

[Elder Iptuous]

Roger, you ever get those matched Bisleys rebarreled?

Sold 'em.  The damage wasn't as bad as it appeared, and I a fairly decent price for them.

hey, good to hear.

Reinstate the ban that expired but expand the list of weapons.  I think the law that Clinton signed was far too anemic and had too many loopholes.  But you pair this with stricter regulations for yearly gun registration, universal background checks...it's about putting up more barriers to make it more difficult.  You'll never eliminate gun violence, but maybe we can at least dial back the 87 deaths a day by a dozen and go from there.

and this would reduce bun violence how?

furthermore, you give me some firearms feature and i'll tell you or invent a loophole post haste.
you want registration? there's more firearms already out there than people.  how are you going to enforce that?  There is also not the political will to do so.  universal background checks?  you can't have that without the registration, and you are already at a 'political will deficit' without the defacto banning of personal sales.

[P3nT4gR4m]

What happened in the 90's? Free bullets? 

Recession started in 1987.  Technical recovery began in 1993, turning into an actual economic recovery in 1994.

For the slow readers - this led to national year of the killcraze, why?

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

What happened in the 90's? Free bullets? 

Recession started in 1987.  Technical recovery began in 1993, turning into an actual economic recovery in 1994.

And there we have it.

People seem to get along better when there's a semblance of "enough to go around". Or at least shoot each other less.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

What happened in the 90's? Free bullets? 

Weapons ban.   

Rifle shootings down a tad, pistol shootings through the roof.

[Cain]

What happened in the 90's? Free bullets? 

Recession started in 1987.  Technical recovery began in 1993, turning into an actual economic recovery in 1994.

For the slow readers - this led to national year of the killcraze, why?

Larger disparities in wealth, greater stress on social services, budget cuts, loss of revenue are all correlated with violent crime increase.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

What happened in the 90's? Free bullets? 

Recession started in 1987.  Technical recovery began in 1993, turning into an actual economic recovery in 1994.

For the slow readers - this led to national year of the killcraze, why?

Larger disparities in wealth, greater stress on social services, budget cuts, loss of revenue are all correlated with violent crime increase.

Yep, because the drop in "other gun" crimes was smaller than the HUGE INCREASE in pistol related deaths that peaked in 1994.

[AFK]

Roger, you ever get those matched Bisleys rebarreled?

Sold 'em.  The damage wasn't as bad as it appeared, and I a fairly decent price for them.

hey, good to hear.

Reinstate the ban that expired but expand the list of weapons.  I think the law that Clinton signed was far too anemic and had too many loopholes.  But you pair this with stricter regulations for yearly gun registration, universal background checks...it's about putting up more barriers to make it more difficult.  You'll never eliminate gun violence, but maybe we can at least dial back the 87 deaths a day by a dozen and go from there.

and this would reduce bun violence how?

furthermore, you give me some firearms feature and i'll tell you or invent a loophole post haste.
you want registration? there's more firearms already out there than people.  how are you going to enforce that?  There is also not the political will to do so.  universal background checks?  you can't have that without the registration, and you are already at a 'political will deficit' without the defacto banning of personal sales.

Oh, I fully acknowledge that the political will issue is an onerus one, and in the end, will assure that nothing actually happens, ever. 

[P3nT4gR4m]

What happened in the 90's? Free bullets? 

Recession started in 1987.  Technical recovery began in 1993, turning into an actual economic recovery in 1994.

For the slow readers - this led to national year of the killcraze, why?

Larger disparities in wealth, greater stress on social services, budget cuts, loss of revenue are all correlated with violent crime increase.

Oh. Yeah, I see that now. Makes perfect sense when you look at it like that.

I wonder - is there a corollary with deaths overseas at american hands? Like, when they get strapped for cash is it not just each other that they take down with their gun-totin escapades 

[East Coast Hustle]

Well, those are great long-term goals.  But what are you going to do about the problem RIGHT NOW?

Wait... are you under the impression that passing more gun control laws is a short-term solution?



What on EARTH gives you that idea?

Don't answer the question with a question.  The goals you listed are good, but long term and nothing you would be able to pass or enact in the short term.  So I'll ask again.  What would you do RIGHT NOW to start impacting the issue of gun violence?

You answer questions with questions all the time, hypocrite. 

Let's take just one of my suggestions: Impose a maximum wage.

How is that not "right now"? How is passing more gun control laws somehow more immediate? It certainly hasn't shown to be effective in reducing gun violence so far, so why do you think it will start being effective now?

Okay, my first question would be what specifically is it about the maximum wage that would reduce gun violence? Walk me through it.

What about an assault weapons ban, specifically, would reduce gun violence? Walk me through it.

Reinstate the ban that expired but expand the list of weapons.  I think the law that Clinton signed was far too anemic and had too many loopholes.  But you pair this with stricter regulations for yearly gun registration, universal background checks...it's about putting up more barriers to make it more difficult.  You'll never eliminate gun violence, but maybe we can at least dial back the 87 deaths a day by a dozen and go from there.

That didn't answer my question at all. What, SPECIFICALLY, about an assault weapon ban would reduce gun crime?