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Started by AFK, January 20, 2013, 12:56:35 AM

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The Good Reverend Roger

#675
January 31, 2013, 07:06:01 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on January 31, 2013, 07:00:18 PM
while i agree with your final statement, the erosion of of it certainly impacts our ability of home defense.
and i would disagree with your first statement, conditionally.  frangible safety rounds like Glasser makes, or, my preference, bird shot make the issue of overpenetration manageable.  Fundamentally, however, you need to be aware of your target, and what's behind your target. (no small task, given the pressures, i understand)
Regardless, i would say that a firearm beats a stick.  even a steel stick.  just my opinion, and i'm not looking to press it, though.

Good luck being aware of your surroundings adequately when you just woke up stuffed full of adrenaline.

And a crowbar in tight quarters beats ANYTHING except maybe a flamethrower.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

#676
January 31, 2013, 07:06:46 PM
And you know what THAT means!

CROWBAR REGULATIONS!

:banana:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Elder Iptuous

#677
January 31, 2013, 07:10:54 PM
i hope not!
i get accused of carrying a concealed crowbar frequently...

*eyebrow wiggle*

tyrannosaurus vex

#678
January 31, 2013, 07:26:46 PM
I dunno man, ever since the UK did away with firearms, their murder rate has gone down to zero. I think it's a good idea.
Evil and Unfeeling Arse-Flenser From The City of the Damned.

The Good Reverend Roger

#679
January 31, 2013, 07:28:01 PM
Quote from: V3X on January 31, 2013, 07:26:46 PM
I dunno man, ever since the UK did away with firearms, their murder rate has gone down to zero. I think it's a good idea.

South Africa's gun laws are insanely rigorous, which totally keeps the bad guys from having AK47s and RPGs.

But I'm sure they're going to roll the non-functional gun laws in with other legislation.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

#680
January 31, 2013, 07:29:03 PM
Also, cocaine is illegal in the USA, which is why nobody ever uses it.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

tyrannosaurus vex

#681
January 31, 2013, 07:36:03 PM
A. Gun Prohibition = no gun crime;
B. Therefore, Murder Prohibition = no murder;
C. Therefore, Sandy Hook Elementary never happened;
D. Therefore what is the fucking problem? Everybody go back to sleep.
Evil and Unfeeling Arse-Flenser From The City of the Damned.

Elder Iptuous

#682
January 31, 2013, 07:51:26 PM
so, the counterargument being that we maintain murder laws despite the fact that they don't prevent murders is because the laws are punitive in purpose, rather than preventive.
the reason this can't be applied to gun bans is that they are attempting to address only the misuse of firearms, which is already covered under the murder laws.  their legitimate use sets firearm ownership apart from the other things we have banned, which have no accepted legitimate purpose.

so, this argument, which is used on both sides, is DOA, and it should go away, no?

The Good Reverend Roger

#683
January 31, 2013, 07:52:48 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on January 31, 2013, 07:51:26 PM
so, the counterargument being that we maintain murder laws despite the fact that they don't prevent murders is because the laws are punitive in purpose, rather than preventive.
the reason this can't be applied to gun bans is that they are attempting to address only the misuse of firearms, which is already covered under the murder laws.  their legitimate use sets firearm ownership apart from the other things we have banned, which have no accepted legitimate purpose.

so, this argument, which is used on both sides, is DOA, and it should go away, no?

If this thread were actually about firearms and/or firearms, you'd have a point.

But it's not.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Elder Iptuous

#684
January 31, 2013, 08:02:22 PM
oh, yeah...

:lol:

The Good Reverend Roger

#685
January 31, 2013, 08:05:52 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on January 31, 2013, 08:02:22 PM
oh, yeah...

:lol:

Any time that you think it is, just read the thread title.

This thread is about RWHN's butthurt, and his desire to share it.  Therefore, he titled in such a fashion as to imply that anyone who disagrees with him is some sort of nationalistic, mouth-breathing po'bucker.

So, you know, he can go fuck himself.  I'm just here for the lulz.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#686
January 31, 2013, 08:12:22 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 31, 2013, 02:21:10 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on January 31, 2013, 05:45:49 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 31, 2013, 12:39:55 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 31, 2013, 12:17:40 AM
No, fuck the Constitution on its own merits.



Hellooooooooo, Captain Utopia!

At least he finally said it flat-out.  :lulz:

Well, it's not exactly a surprise, is it?

Not in the slightest.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

Anna Mae Bollocks

#687
January 31, 2013, 08:31:52 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 31, 2013, 07:06:46 PM
And you know what THAT means!

CROWBAR REGULATIONS!

:banana:

Why not. We already have a bunch of dog regulations.  :horrormirth:

I started to apply for housing a few months ago and they told me I couldn't have a dog over 20 lbs.
LET'S GO LIVE IN THE PROJECTS AND KEEP A CHIHUAHUA. THAT'LL INTIMIDATE 'EM.
Scantily-Clad Inspector of Gigantic and Unnecessary Cashews, Texas Division

Elder Iptuous

#688
January 31, 2013, 08:52:41 PM
Nobody neeeeeds a dog over 20 lbs.!

also:

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#689
January 31, 2013, 09:16:05 PM
Quote from: Wuli Fufu on January 31, 2013, 08:31:52 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 31, 2013, 07:06:46 PM
And you know what THAT means!

CROWBAR REGULATIONS!

:banana:

Why not. We already have a bunch of dog regulations.  :horrormirth:

I started to apply for housing a few months ago and they told me I couldn't have a dog over 20 lbs.
LET'S GO LIVE IN THE PROJECTS AND KEEP A CHIHUAHUA. THAT'LL INTIMIDATE 'EM.

That's just the property owner's policy... but some cities do have laws banning certain breeds. Because, the important thing to look at is which breeds of dog are being used in illegal activities like dogfighting or are being trained by their owners to be vicious, and ban those breeds in order to reduce the problem.

Effective in very much the same way in which banning the sale of pseudoephedrine without a prescription has totally reduced Oregon's methamphetamine problem.

Because all the data shows that criminals, when informed that something profitable is now even more illegal, typically simply throw their hands up and walk away from crime.

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

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