Drones to be Used in Dorner Case

[Junkenstein]

That's a nice find, as is the Ames piece. It seems that large teritorial boundaries with little oversight can cause corruption.

Drone discussion is gathering some momentum it seems. By momentum, I mean op-ed pieces of the usual varites and opinions. This is a typical example:

http://www.thedailydolt.com/2013/02/22/slate-editors-invent-strange-new-form-of-logic/

Various similar, I just liked this in particular:

Now, some might argue that killing fewer civilians is not actually saving any lives, it's just killing fewer people than a clumsier method might. But look at it this way: Imagine you're driving a 1974 Dodge Monaco at full speed around a busy shopping mall. Some people might criticize you for that, too. Some people might get all hysterical and scream things like, "That's so dangerous!" or "What are you doing?!" or "OH MY GOD, you just ran over that elderly man right there. I think he's dead now. Is he moving? He's not moving."

But these people would be missing the point. The point is, think of all the lives you just saved by not driving a Hummer.

[Juana]

Yeah, I've heard some awful shit about law enforcement in Victorville, etc. Not surprised.

[Junkenstein]

http://news.yahoo.com/report-uk-stripping-terrorism-suspects-citizenship-us-killing-214324081.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/british-terror-suspects-quietly-stripped-of-citizenship-then-killed-by-drones-8513858.html

Independent:

The Government has secretly ramped up a controversial programme that strips people of their British citizenship on national security grounds – with two of the men subsequently killed by American drone attacks.

An investigation by the Bureau of Investigative Journalism for The Independent has established that since 2010, the Home Secretary, Theresa May, has revoked the passports of 16 individuals, many of whom are alleged to have had links to militant or terrorist groups.

Critics of the programme warn that it allows ministers to "wash their hands" of British nationals suspected of terrorism who could be subject to torture and illegal detention abroad.

I assume if the UK is taking this kind of stance, other EU countries will be as well.

The future looks to be increasingly filled with distant impersonal death.

[P3nT4gR4m]

http://news.yahoo.com/report-uk-stripping-terrorism-suspects-citizenship-us-killing-214324081.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/british-terror-suspects-quietly-stripped-of-citizenship-then-killed-by-drones-8513858.html

Independent:

The Government has secretly ramped up a controversial programme that strips people of their British citizenship on national security grounds – with two of the men subsequently killed by American drone attacks.

An investigation by the Bureau of Investigative Journalism for The Independent has established that since 2010, the Home Secretary, Theresa May, has revoked the passports of 16 individuals, many of whom are alleged to have had links to militant or terrorist groups.

Critics of the programme warn that it allows ministers to "wash their hands" of British nationals suspected of terrorism who could be subject to torture and illegal detention abroad.

I assume if the UK is taking this kind of stance, other EU countries will be as well.

The future looks to be increasingly filled with distant impersonal death.

It's been that way since they invented archery. All that's changed is the distance. Chalk it down to progress. Killing other humans is an fundamental characteristic of our species. Always has been (probably) always will be. We're getting better at it - go team primate!

Pissing and moaning about it, however is a relatively new thing. Our morality is now in direct conflict with our basic biology. Biology trumps intellectual bullshit for the foreseeable future.

[Juana]

http://news.yahoo.com/report-uk-stripping-terrorism-suspects-citizenship-us-killing-214324081.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/british-terror-suspects-quietly-stripped-of-citizenship-then-killed-by-drones-8513858.html

Independent:

The Government has secretly ramped up a controversial programme that strips people of their British citizenship on national security grounds – with two of the men subsequently killed by American drone attacks.

An investigation by the Bureau of Investigative Journalism for The Independent has established that since 2010, the Home Secretary, Theresa May, has revoked the passports of 16 individuals, many of whom are alleged to have had links to militant or terrorist groups.

Critics of the programme warn that it allows ministers to "wash their hands" of British nationals suspected of terrorism who could be subject to torture and illegal detention abroad.

I assume if the UK is taking this kind of stance, other EU countries will be as well.

The future looks to be increasingly filled with distant impersonal death.

Wonderful.

[Elder Iptuous]

Well, it looks like these are the drones my cops are going to use right here in river city...
http://www.gizmag.com/arlington-tx-police-uav-faa/26665/
the 'Leptron Avenger'.  couldn't they have chosen a more innocuous name?

[Junkenstein]

If it's not named something vaguely menacing, it clearly isn't for your own protection.

[Cain]

Unfortunately, for anyone who has played Mass Effect, the name "Avenger" is used for the standard starting assault rifle, and so is not menacing at all.  It in fact has the second lowest DPS in the game, and frequently derided by players as being utterly useless, unless used to beat enemies over the head with it.

I cannot take anything named the Avenger as a serious threat as a result.

[Elder Iptuous]

which is all the more disappointing, because those dangerous video game players are the precise ones we want to instill fear in!
come to think of it, i would imagine that most people would find the name nonthreatening because it conjures images in their minds of beneficent men in underwear saving the world, due to recent hollywood offerings.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Puts me in mind of what a bunch of engineer dweebs with Rambo complexes would sit around and think up.

[Cain]

Indeed.  Much like Thor, they fly around, keeping a benevolent eye on everyone.

Clearly we need some kind of drone registry system...