Wont see this in many stories about the new Pope

[Cain]

The new Pope is actually far worse than the "Nazi" Pope we had before:

Bergoglio was the head of the Jesuits in Argentina during the military dictatorship of 1976-1983, during which the military murdered upwards of 30,000 people (as well as kidnapping hundreds of children whose parents the regime had tortured and murdered). Unlike Catholic officials in neighboring Chile and Brazil, where priests, bishops, and even cardinals spoke out against human rights abuses and defended victims of abuses, in Argentina, the Catholic Church was openly complicit in the military regime's repression. Bergoglio wasnot exemptfrom this involvement:military officers have testified that Bergoglio helped the Argentine military regime hide political prisoners when human rights activists visited the country. And Bergoglio himsel fhad to testify regarding the kidnapping of two priests who he stripped of their religious licenses shortly before they were kidnapped and tortured. This isn't just a case of Bergoglio being a member of an institution that supported a brutal regime; it's a case of Bergoglio himself having ties, direct and indirect, to that very regime.

[Juana]

What a piece of work this guy is. Ugh.

[Junkenstein]

I wonder, would it have been possible to elect a new pope that has a clean background?

I'd assume that by the time you reach that level of seniority, you at least know about shady shit.

[Faust]

I wonder, would it have been possible to elect a new pope that has a clean background?

I'd assume that by the time you reach that level of seniority, you at least know about shady shit.

He's infallible. If he didn't have a clean past before he became pope he has it now.

[LMNO]

I was gonna ask about that. A powerful figure in Argentina is almost GUARANTEED to have filth on their hands.

[Freeky]

If it weren't so fucked up, it would be funny how shitty this Guy is.

[trippinprincezz13]

I wonder, would it have been possible to elect a new pope that has a clean background?

I'd assume that by the time you reach that level of seniority, you at least know about shady shit.

Yea, not that knowing about and/or being complicit in shady dealings is any better than committing said deeds, and certainly can be even worse, but to go for the guy who was all hands-on about it? I certainly because disillusioned with the Church a while ago, but I'd like to believe that there are priests out there are some good priests out there, genuinely trying to do "God's work", not hatemongering, child molesting/covering up, aiding in torture practices, etc.

But, I suppose those types, should they exist, aren't going to be the ones clawing their way to the top. And the majority of people likely will never hear about this or will try to twist reasoning, "he had no choice", "he didn't know what was really going on", etc.

ugh.

Edit: I see the other cardinal mentioned, Scherer, at least spoke out against those type of abuses, but of course, why would you want someone like that as your figurehead?

[Juana]

I kind of think it's shitty to castigate millions of priests just because some of them are really shitty people. Don't get me wrong, I despise the Vatican itself and trust the upper echelon of the Church about as far as I can throw it, but most priests are no more evil than anyone else.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

People on facebook are all like "Yay, he's named for St. Francis of Assisi! He's gonna be great!" 

[Faust]

I kind of think it's shitty to castigate millions of priests just because some of them are really shitty people. Don't get me wrong, I despise the Vatican itself and trust the upper echelon of the Church about as far as I can throw it, but most priests are no more evil than anyone else.

Ireland has had about 200 clerical sex abuse cases in the last thirty years out of about 4000 priests.

So that's about a 5% or one in twenty pedophile rate.

Though I'm not sure if that is high, is that high?

[Cain]

There's also the fact that a lot of non-shitty priests in South America tended to die or vanish under mysterious circumstances for pointing out that, like, disppearing and killing political dissidents was not cool with God.

What that means is in South America you mostly have priests who are ideological nutters or cowards.  Except Brazil, oddly enough, where the Vatican was instrumental in preventing military abuses and securing a return to civilian rule.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I kind of think it's shitty to castigate millions of priests just because some of them are really shitty people. Don't get me wrong, I despise the Vatican itself and trust the upper echelon of the Church about as far as I can throw it, but most priests are no more evil than anyone else.

Ireland has had about 200 clerical sex abuse cases in the last thirty years out of about 4000 priests.

So that's about a 5% or one in twenty pedophile rate.

Though I'm not sure if that is high, is that high?

Is that 200 cases or 200 priests accused of pedophilia? If it's priests, it's high.

[Faust]

I kind of think it's shitty to castigate millions of priests just because some of them are really shitty people. Don't get me wrong, I despise the Vatican itself and trust the upper echelon of the Church about as far as I can throw it, but most priests are no more evil than anyone else.

Ireland has had about 200 clerical sex abuse cases in the last thirty years out of about 4000 priests.

So that's about a 5% or one in twenty pedophile rate.

Though I'm not sure if that is high, is that high?

Is that 200 cases or 200 priests accused of pedophilia? If it's priests, it's high.

Two hundred confirmed cases, pending accusations are a lot higher but are not publicly disclosed until or if they go to trial.

[Juana]

500 cases in my state, 200 accused priests. I'll figure out how many priests there are total here later. Siince I should actually be doing homework. Also, I looked up the total number of priests world-wide and I was way, way off on the number, which totals in at ~400,000 (there's over a billion Catholics! They weren't kidding about there being a priest shortage.)

There's also the fact that a lot of non-shitty priests in South America tended to die or vanish under mysterious circumstances for pointing out that, like, disppearing and killing political dissidents was not cool with God.

What that means is in South America you mostly have priests who are ideological nutters or cowards.  Except Brazil, oddly enough, where the Vatican was instrumental in preventing military abuses and securing a return to civilian rule.

This, I believe for sure. Liberation theology was not well met with by the Vatican, either.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I kind of think it's shitty to castigate millions of priests just because some of them are really shitty people. Don't get me wrong, I despise the Vatican itself and trust the upper echelon of the Church about as far as I can throw it, but most priests are no more evil than anyone else.

Ireland has had about 200 clerical sex abuse cases in the last thirty years out of about 4000 priests.

So that's about a 5% or one in twenty pedophile rate.

Though I'm not sure if that is high, is that high?

Is that 200 cases or 200 priests accused of pedophilia? If it's priests, it's high.

Two hundred confirmed cases, pending accusations are a lot higher but are not publicly disclosed until or if they go to trial.

Oh. I really can't compare statistics without knowing either the number of priests involved, unfortunately, as each offender likely molested multiple people.