Upton Sinclair - Terrorist

[deadfong]

Speaking of ALEC:

www.nytimes.com/2013/04/07/us/taping-of-farm-cruelty-is-becoming-the-crime.html

They proposed or enacted bills that would make it illegal to covertly videotape livestock farms, or apply for a job at one without disclosing ties to animal rights groups.

Some of the legislation appears inspired by the American Legislative Exchange Council, a business advocacy group with hundreds of state representatives from farm states as members.

One of the group's model bills, "The Animal and Ecological Terrorism Act," prohibits filming or taking pictures on livestock farms to "defame the facility or its owner." Violators would be placed on a "terrorist registry."

What was it in that other thread?  Criminalize all the things?

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Speaking of ALEC:

www.nytimes.com/2013/04/07/us/taping-of-farm-cruelty-is-becoming-the-crime.html

They proposed or enacted bills that would make it illegal to covertly videotape livestock farms, or apply for a job at one without disclosing ties to animal rights groups.

Some of the legislation appears inspired by the American Legislative Exchange Council, a business advocacy group with hundreds of state representatives from farm states as members.

One of the group's model bills, "The Animal and Ecological Terrorism Act," prohibits filming or taking pictures on livestock farms to "defame the facility or its owner." Violators would be placed on a "terrorist registry."

What was it in that other thread?  Criminalize all the things?

Because factory farms shouldn't be interfered with when they beat cows with tire irons and keep them standing in poop knee deep.
FREE ENTERPRISE

[Cainad (dec.)]

There's no damn reason at all that anyone should need or even want to know where their meat comes from.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Speaking of ALEC:

www.nytimes.com/2013/04/07/us/taping-of-farm-cruelty-is-becoming-the-crime.html

They proposed or enacted bills that would make it illegal to covertly videotape livestock farms, or apply for a job at one without disclosing ties to animal rights groups.

Some of the legislation appears inspired by the American Legislative Exchange Council, a business advocacy group with hundreds of state representatives from farm states as members.

One of the group's model bills, "The Animal and Ecological Terrorism Act," prohibits filming or taking pictures on livestock farms to "defame the facility or its owner." Violators would be placed on a "terrorist registry."

What was it in that other thread?  Criminalize all the things?

Yep. Have any of you watched "Food, Inc"? It's... disturbing. People are afraid to say that they don't eat meat because they can get sued. Farmers losing their contracts because they let journalists into their farms.

This is a good topic and really deserves its own thread. I'll be writing about it a lot this term because it's the focus of my writing class.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

There's no damn reason at all that anyone should need or even want to know where their meat comes from.

IF YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT E COLI TELL THEM TO PUT SOME CLOROX OR SOMETHING IN IT

And yeah. Food Inc. is an eye opener and a half.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Hey, if you guys don't mind, I'm going to request a thread split because I actually really do think Deadfong's link and topic deserve a whole thread. I'd like to delve into it a little more deeply, because the food corporation issues are really, really fucked up.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

YES. THREAD SPLIT PLS.

[Cain]

Split.  Feel free to rename the thread - I gave it this one for reasons of personal amusement.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Split.  Feel free to rename the thread - I gave it this one for reasons of personal amusement.

I like it.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Isn't it amusing that showing bad practices on a factory livestock farm could fall under the heading of "ecological terrorism", considering what those farms do to the ecology?

MOAR E-COLI ON MY SPINACH, PLEASE.

So, we have issues like highly virulent strains of e-coli emerging as a direct result of factory farming practices, and more people becoming ill or dying of food-borne illnesses every year, often as a result of spraying unprocessed animal waste on vegetable crops, plus we have contaminated water and, best of all, the emergence of FUCKING KILLER VIRUSES that breed in these environments like they were petri dishes, but if you try to call attention to this or show images of it, you're a goddamned terrorist.

Yay.

[deadfong]

"Terrorism" now equals non-violent action that threatens the status quo / bottom line.  I swear, no matter how pessimistic I was when I was younger, I never really believed we'd end up living in 1984.

The thread split is a good idea, by the way.  Though I had a moment of mild panic when I first saw it - I didn't remember posting a new thread with such an awesome title.  Was afraid maybe pd.com was doing things to me.

[Pergamos]

This seems like a really obvious freedom of the press issue.  I can't see this standing up in court at all.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Missing the point, here.

Defamation now equals terrorism.

MORE TO THE POINT:

Terrorism is no longer "causing terror to achieve a political objective", and is now "anything we don't like."

[Q. G. Pennyworth]

It's terrorism if you're trying to scare people. Killing them is just fine. 

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Missing the point, here.

Defamation now equals terrorism.

MORE TO THE POINT:

Terrorism is no longer "causing terror to achieve a political objective", and is now "anything we don't like."

And cameras are the same as bombs.
Unless it's THEIR cameras.