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April 10, 2013, 05:06:51 PM

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
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#1
April 10, 2013, 05:20:27 PM
University of Washington really has a proposal and NASA really is funding it, if that's your question. If your question is "does this fusion engine actually exist", the answer is no.

It's sort of like the HIV vaccine research going on at OHSU. The research is real, and the funding grant is real, but the vaccine doesn't exist yet and may never exist.
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#2
April 10, 2013, 05:52:39 PM
Hmmmz. I got the impression it was simply a matter of scaling an existing prototype. What I mean is it's not chasing some technological breakthrough, they just need to build the thing. I'm assuming the math is sound or how'd they secure funding? This aint like one of those "can haz cold fusion" numbers

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

LMNO

#3
April 10, 2013, 06:43:43 PM
"simply" a matter of "scaling up".


I think I see the problem.

P3nT4gR4m

#4
April 10, 2013, 07:03:57 PM
Does the physics not tally or you need 1.21 gigawatts or some shit?

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
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Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
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Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

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#5
April 10, 2013, 07:05:25 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 10, 2013, 07:03:57 PM
Does the physics not tally or you need 1.21 gigawatts or some shit?

It turns out that the Flux Capacitor isn't actually a thing.
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P3nT4gR4m

#6
April 10, 2013, 07:16:10 PM
I don't even want to think about that right now :eek:

The reason I'm more optimistic about this idea than warp speed is that the boffins seem to know how to do the whole thing but duracell currently doesn't make a big enough power cell.

The way this thing sounds is that massive plugs of energy isn't the stumbling block, it's an engineering issue. My question is, basically, how does their timescale sound? Comedy-unfeasible or realistic enough?

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

The Good Reverend Roger

#7
April 10, 2013, 07:17:16 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 10, 2013, 07:16:10 PM
I don't even want to think about that right now :eek:

The reason I'm more optimistic about this idea than warp speed is that the boffins seem to know how to do the whole thing but duracell currently doesn't make a big enough power cell.

The way this thing sounds is that massive plugs of energy isn't the stumbling block, it's an engineering issue. My question is, basically, how does their timescale sound? Comedy-unfeasible or realistic enough?

Actually, that's the issue with the warp drive.  They've got it all worked out, it's just a matter of generating 50 metric tons of exotic matter.
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"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

P3nT4gR4m

#8
April 10, 2013, 07:18:47 PM
Yeah, so you get where I'm coming from then. They're talking about needing not a lot of juice to do whatever the hell this thing does

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

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#9
April 10, 2013, 11:26:10 PM
As a device that relies on nuclear fusion, isn't this drive technically illegal under the outer space treaty?

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#10
April 11, 2013, 12:45:17 AM
If this involves firing people off into space, I approve.

I have a list.  Targeting is pretty optional...
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#11
April 11, 2013, 01:55:42 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 10, 2013, 05:52:39 PM
Hmmmz. I got the impression it was simply a matter of scaling an existing prototype. What I mean is it's not chasing some technological breakthrough, they just need to build the thing. I'm assuming the math is sound or how'd they secure funding? This aint like one of those "can haz cold fusion" numbers

They got funding for research. That doesn't mean they have a plan that is workable, it means they have a line of research that sounds plausible.

QuoteThe FDR is one of only ten projects to get Stage Two funding from the program. This $600,000 award will provide the proof-of-concept FDR system over the next 18 months

So, they have a concept that looks good on paper.

Lots of projects get funding for research and never pan out.
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#12
April 11, 2013, 02:01:30 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 11, 2013, 01:55:42 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 10, 2013, 05:52:39 PM
Hmmmz. I got the impression it was simply a matter of scaling an existing prototype. What I mean is it's not chasing some technological breakthrough, they just need to build the thing. I'm assuming the math is sound or how'd they secure funding? This aint like one of those "can haz cold fusion" numbers

They got funding for research. That doesn't mean they have a plan that is workable, it means they have a line of research that sounds plausible.

QuoteThe FDR is one of only ten projects to get Stage Two funding from the program. This $600,000 award will provide the proof-of-concept FDR system over the next 18 months

So, they have a concept that looks good on paper.

Lots of projects get funding for research and never pan out.


I refuse to be pessimistic. This shit is possible, even if this particular project doesn't pan out. Besides, $600K spent on something like this is $600K that isn't spent building drones and killing kids in Pakistan. So even if we never launch a single spacecraft, the project has already saved lives.
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#13
April 11, 2013, 02:23:57 AM
Quote from: V3X on April 11, 2013, 02:01:30 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 11, 2013, 01:55:42 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 10, 2013, 05:52:39 PM
Hmmmz. I got the impression it was simply a matter of scaling an existing prototype. What I mean is it's not chasing some technological breakthrough, they just need to build the thing. I'm assuming the math is sound or how'd they secure funding? This aint like one of those "can haz cold fusion" numbers

They got funding for research. That doesn't mean they have a plan that is workable, it means they have a line of research that sounds plausible.

QuoteThe FDR is one of only ten projects to get Stage Two funding from the program. This $600,000 award will provide the proof-of-concept FDR system over the next 18 months

So, they have a concept that looks good on paper.

Lots of projects get funding for research and never pan out.


I refuse to be pessimistic. This shit is possible, even if this particular project doesn't pan out. Besides, $600K spent on something like this is $600K that isn't spent building drones and killing kids in Pakistan. So even if we never launch a single spacecraft, the project has already saved lives.

:? I'm not being pessimistic.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

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#14
April 11, 2013, 02:27:44 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 11, 2013, 02:23:57 AM
Quote from: V3X on April 11, 2013, 02:01:30 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 11, 2013, 01:55:42 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 10, 2013, 05:52:39 PM
Hmmmz. I got the impression it was simply a matter of scaling an existing prototype. What I mean is it's not chasing some technological breakthrough, they just need to build the thing. I'm assuming the math is sound or how'd they secure funding? This aint like one of those "can haz cold fusion" numbers

They got funding for research. That doesn't mean they have a plan that is workable, it means they have a line of research that sounds plausible.

QuoteThe FDR is one of only ten projects to get Stage Two funding from the program. This $600,000 award will provide the proof-of-concept FDR system over the next 18 months

So, they have a concept that looks good on paper.

Lots of projects get funding for research and never pan out.


I refuse to be pessimistic. This shit is possible, even if this particular project doesn't pan out. Besides, $600K spent on something like this is $600K that isn't spent building drones and killing kids in Pakistan. So even if we never launch a single spacecraft, the project has already saved lives.

:? I'm not being pessimistic.

Sorry I didn't mean you were. I just want this to succeed. I think we may be facing the technological singularity soon, so despite my better judgment I am low on low expectations.

Plus if we all believe REALLY HARD, the universe HAS to listen right?
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