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Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:

Started by Mesozoic Mister Nigel, May 15, 2013, 12:46:12 AM

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Suu

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 15, 2013, 03:24:37 PM
What about, "The rich exploit the poor to get one over on the middle class."

And then, the French Revolution happened.
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Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Suu

Quote from: Junkenstein on May 15, 2013, 03:38:32 PM
Madam Guillotine is still waiting and still very hungry.

and that's what happened when the middle class got power they couldn't control. ~_~
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Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

Junkenstein

Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

GrannySmith

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there are too many WAAAAAAAY worse things being done to people, disabled or not, around the world, the 99% could find much more shocking articles to support its case. This is seems to me just bad journalism.
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Junkenstein on May 15, 2013, 09:46:40 AM
Quote"You can't go to Disney without a tour concierge,'' she sniffed. "This is how the 1 percent does Disney."

Something about that sets my bullshit alarm off. I think it may be due to the story crossing into Onion territory that's fucking it up.

It's because it's written in tabloid-ese.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 15, 2013, 02:41:59 PM
The very rich use the disabled to flaunt their privilege and cut in front of all the schmucks waiting in line who don't have enough money to buy a cripple.

This.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Faust on May 15, 2013, 02:47:28 PM
All set on the stage of the fibreglass atrocity exhibition that is "The happiest place on earth"

And this.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Eater of Clowns on May 15, 2013, 02:54:54 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 15, 2013, 02:41:59 PM
The very rich use the disabled to flaunt their privilege and cut in front of all the schmucks waiting in line who don't have enough money to buy a cripple.

Oh yeah, it's still disgusting, but as Johnny pointed out, framing it in a way that the rich use people with disabilities gives them the power.  If the article, and the public, try to change their outlook using shame it won't work - these are very obviously people who don't have any.  But if you frame the situation in such a way that power is given to the people they hired, and mockery of the rich folks' idiocy is the tool used, it sends a much better message.

Framing it that way doesn't make any more sense than framing it "Undocumented Immigrants Take Advantage of Farm Corporations in California". They DON'T have the power, and reframing it to make it sound like they do doesn't change that. It's just spin-doctoring.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: GrannySmith on May 15, 2013, 03:59:22 PM
there are too many WAAAAAAAY worse things being done to people, disabled or not, around the world, the 99% could find much more shocking articles to support its case. This is seems to me just bad journalism.

Derp.

It's not the most shocking or horrific thing going on by a long shot. It's just that everything about it, including the shitty tabloid reporting, is a perfect illustration of Americaâ„¢.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Eater of Clowns

Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 15, 2013, 04:08:34 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on May 15, 2013, 02:54:54 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 15, 2013, 02:41:59 PM
The very rich use the disabled to flaunt their privilege and cut in front of all the schmucks waiting in line who don't have enough money to buy a cripple.

Oh yeah, it's still disgusting, but as Johnny pointed out, framing it in a way that the rich use people with disabilities gives them the power.  If the article, and the public, try to change their outlook using shame it won't work - these are very obviously people who don't have any.  But if you frame the situation in such a way that power is given to the people they hired, and mockery of the rich folks' idiocy is the tool used, it sends a much better message.

Framing it that way doesn't make any more sense than framing it "Undocumented Immigrants Take Advantage of Farm Corporations in California". They DON'T have the power, and reframing it to make it sound like they do doesn't change that. It's just spin-doctoring.

Yeah.  Sometimes I just like pretending people actually aren't this shitty.  It's fucking gross.   :sad:
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Eater of Clowns on May 15, 2013, 05:41:01 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 15, 2013, 04:08:34 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on May 15, 2013, 02:54:54 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 15, 2013, 02:41:59 PM
The very rich use the disabled to flaunt their privilege and cut in front of all the schmucks waiting in line who don't have enough money to buy a cripple.

Oh yeah, it's still disgusting, but as Johnny pointed out, framing it in a way that the rich use people with disabilities gives them the power.  If the article, and the public, try to change their outlook using shame it won't work - these are very obviously people who don't have any.  But if you frame the situation in such a way that power is given to the people they hired, and mockery of the rich folks' idiocy is the tool used, it sends a much better message.

Framing it that way doesn't make any more sense than framing it "Undocumented Immigrants Take Advantage of Farm Corporations in California". They DON'T have the power, and reframing it to make it sound like they do doesn't change that. It's just spin-doctoring.

Yeah.  Sometimes I just like pretending people actually aren't this shitty.  It's fucking gross.   :sad:

Yes, yes it is.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Junkenstein

It's an interesting idea to play with for a moment though. Lets consider some tabloid style headlines where the power balance has shifted. What happened recently? Factory collapses. Lets try that.

"WORKERS CAUSE FACTORY COLLAPSE"

"Thousands of workers are putting their bosses at serious risk by insisting on unsafe conditions. Notorious Scumbag, 53, noted how the local community bullied him into a position that may now result in jail. "There are tens of thousands of people here. They come to me every day asking if there is work for them. My heart breaks. I negotiate with my buyers to take more for less so I can help these people. I tell them there is no room, and the working conditions will be cramped and unsafe. They just don't care. Some even bring their children along to help them learn reading and writing on their break times. They also learn skills which they can use to seek work later. I now understand what Oscar Schindler meant with "Just one more". The wages they demanded began to spiral out of control and I was left having to choose between repairs, maintainace and the wage bill. I couldn't let people go hungry so the building got worse. I tried to help them, and now they are sending me to jail"

Mr Scumbag has been a vital community slumlord for over 25 years. The ungrateful actions in protest against his inability to pay any compensation are most improper. Scumbag further notes "It's not just me at risk here. There are hundreds of slumlords bullied by their workers into providing employment, space and payment. Their refusal to admit any fault here shames the hundreds of working hours lost. Vital products will not be shipped and discount sales may have to stop. This is a crass, nationalistic worldview that does not consider the needs of the first world."

Mr Scumbag makes a number of compelling points but what is the case from the other side? Phuc Ed Ova, 12 was a worker in the collapsed factory. He claims that he lost several family members in the collapse. In a short statement made to us he remarked that Mr scumbag "Is a very nice man, no hit me". He then started demanding a job and stated that if we did not provide one, he would go and steal one from a a white man.

More at 11.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Anna Mae Bollocks

Quote from: Junkenstein on May 15, 2013, 02:41:16 PM
Surely the responsible thing to do now is for a group of disabled people (Looking at you, veterans of various wars) to start doing this themselves directly.

I have a vision of rows of wheelchairs just outside the Disneyland borders. Signs held up with "Will ride attractions for food"

The savvy will market themselves as "Good with Children" This is an industry in the making.

Not just war vets in wheelchairs. I want the entrance to Disneyland MOBBED with people who would have been stuck working a sideshow tent back in the 30's.

GOOBLE GOBBLE, MOTHERFUCKERS
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Junkenstein on May 15, 2013, 06:12:06 PM
It's an interesting idea to play with for a moment though. Lets consider some tabloid style headlines where the power balance has shifted. What happened recently? Factory collapses. Lets try that.

"WORKERS CAUSE FACTORY COLLAPSE"

"Thousands of workers are putting their bosses at serious risk by insisting on unsafe conditions. Notorious Scumbag, 53, noted how the local community bullied him into a position that may now result in jail. "There are tens of thousands of people here. They come to me every day asking if there is work for them. My heart breaks. I negotiate with my buyers to take more for less so I can help these people. I tell them there is no room, and the working conditions will be cramped and unsafe. They just don't care. Some even bring their children along to help them learn reading and writing on their break times. They also learn skills which they can use to seek work later. I now understand what Oscar Schindler meant with "Just one more". The wages they demanded began to spiral out of control and I was left having to choose between repairs, maintainace and the wage bill. I couldn't let people go hungry so the building got worse. I tried to help them, and now they are sending me to jail"

Mr Scumbag has been a vital community slumlord for over 25 years. The ungrateful actions in protest against his inability to pay any compensation are most improper. Scumbag further notes "It's not just me at risk here. There are hundreds of slumlords bullied by their workers into providing employment, space and payment. Their refusal to admit any fault here shames the hundreds of working hours lost. Vital products will not be shipped and discount sales may have to stop. This is a crass, nationalistic worldview that does not consider the needs of the first world."

Mr Scumbag makes a number of compelling points but what is the case from the other side? Phuc Ed Ova, 12 was a worker in the collapsed factory. He claims that he lost several family members in the collapse. In a short statement made to us he remarked that Mr scumbag "Is a very nice man, no hit me". He then started demanding a job and stated that if we did not provide one, he would go and steal one from a a white man.

More at 11.

I think Ayn Rand already wrote that book, it was called "Atlas Shrugged".
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."