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Started by Suu, May 16, 2013, 07:35:17 PM

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Suu

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The Johnny


True millenials by definition are under 13, so the category is stupid from the start.

this is interesting topic but im on a rush
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Cain


Junkenstein

You mean "Motivation Impaired".
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Cain

i mn lzy.  mtivtn imprd hs 2 mny wrds.

Junkenstein

Well played sir. Well played.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Suu on May 16, 2013, 07:35:17 PM
THIS.

http://www.mattbors.com/blog/2013/05/09/millenials-arent-lazy-theyre-fucked/

I think that the real message to be gleaned from this is one that particular millennial let fly right over his woefully self-obsessed head, even though he mentioned his mother having to work for minimum wage (and then promptly forgot about all the older people who are facing a reality of working for shit pay with no benefits until the day they fall ill and die): EVERYBODY'S fucked.

This is not a gen-Y problem. This is an everybody problem. It's just that the people who are young adults now have the free time and energy to potentially change things, while older people who have kids and possibly mortgages are locked into a daily survival grind that leaves little time for changing society. That closing cartoon kind of sums it up, in a way he probably didn't intend it to; parents and children competing for the same shitty jobs with shitty pay, but the parents are the ones providing the "home" to move back to so they don't have a lot left to give to the cause of making shit better. Meanwhile, unemployed 20-somethings who are living at home have an opportunity to make some change with all that free time.

Time to start beheading the aristocracy, kids.

So fucking quit whining and get on it, son.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Q. G. Pennyworth

Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 17, 2013, 12:47:47 AM
Quote from: Suu on May 16, 2013, 07:35:17 PM
THIS.

http://www.mattbors.com/blog/2013/05/09/millenials-arent-lazy-theyre-fucked/

I think that the real message to be gleaned from this is one that particular millennial let fly right over his woefully self-obsessed head, even though he mentioned his mother having to work for minimum wage (and then promptly forgot about all the older people who are facing a reality of working for shit pay with no benefits until the day they fall ill and die): EVERYBODY'S fucked.

This is not a gen-Y problem. This is an everybody problem. It's just that the people who are young adults now have the free time and energy to potentially change things, while older people who have kids and possibly mortgages are locked into a daily survival grind that leaves little time for changing society. That closing cartoon kind of sums it up, in a way he probably didn't intend it to; parents and children competing for the same shitty jobs with shitty pay, but the parents are the ones providing the "home" to move back to so they don't have a lot left to give to the cause of making shit better. Meanwhile, unemployed 20-somethings who are living at home have an opportunity to make some change with all that free time.

Time to start beheading the aristocracy, kids.

So fucking quit whining and get on it, son.

They may have more time available, but they have no political capital (everyone knows young people don't vote!) and getting involved in anything more controversial than signing an online petition might get them "in the system" somehow which can impact their ability to get jobs in the future. And to be fair, the online petitions probably get them on lists, too. Getting past the crushing helplessness that seems to be intentionally built into the current Machine is a major effort.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 17, 2013, 01:01:49 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 17, 2013, 12:47:47 AM
Quote from: Suu on May 16, 2013, 07:35:17 PM
THIS.

http://www.mattbors.com/blog/2013/05/09/millenials-arent-lazy-theyre-fucked/

I think that the real message to be gleaned from this is one that particular millennial let fly right over his woefully self-obsessed head, even though he mentioned his mother having to work for minimum wage (and then promptly forgot about all the older people who are facing a reality of working for shit pay with no benefits until the day they fall ill and die): EVERYBODY'S fucked.

This is not a gen-Y problem. This is an everybody problem. It's just that the people who are young adults now have the free time and energy to potentially change things, while older people who have kids and possibly mortgages are locked into a daily survival grind that leaves little time for changing society. That closing cartoon kind of sums it up, in a way he probably didn't intend it to; parents and children competing for the same shitty jobs with shitty pay, but the parents are the ones providing the "home" to move back to so they don't have a lot left to give to the cause of making shit better. Meanwhile, unemployed 20-somethings who are living at home have an opportunity to make some change with all that free time.

Time to start beheading the aristocracy, kids.

So fucking quit whining and get on it, son.

They may have more time available, but they have no political capital (everyone knows young people don't vote!) and getting involved in anything more controversial than signing an online petition might get them "in the system" somehow which can impact their ability to get jobs in the future. And to be fair, the online petitions probably get them on lists, too. Getting past the crushing helplessness that seems to be intentionally built into the current Machine is a major effort.

Middle-aged parents working at Wal-Mart also have no political capital, and they also have no energy or free time. The people who DO have political capital don't want the system to change. So basically what I'm saying is, if it's going to happen, it's young people who are going to do it. There's no one else who can, unless the middle-aged people just say fuck it and abandon their mortgages and kids so they can get on top of tearing the bricks out.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

But then, without Mom and Dad's house, where would the poor millennials live, and whose internet would they use to write blogs about how they're not lazy, they're oppressed?
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Salty

Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 17, 2013, 01:19:55 AM
But then, without Mom and Dad's house, where would the poor millennials live, and whose internet would they use to write blogs about how they're not lazy, they're oppressed?

:lulz:

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the top tier doesn't really discriminate that way. Young, old, poor, sick, healthy, average, brown, white, even your set of genitals ALL matter way less then the fact that you may not have the money you're entitled to in order to funtion as a 21st century human being....

Given what we COULD do if we so choose.

Because THEY want to make sure they never have to touch their own shit.
The world is a car and you're the crash test dummy.

Anna Mae Bollocks

Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 17, 2013, 01:18:13 AM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 17, 2013, 01:01:49 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 17, 2013, 12:47:47 AM
Quote from: Suu on May 16, 2013, 07:35:17 PM
THIS.

http://www.mattbors.com/blog/2013/05/09/millenials-arent-lazy-theyre-fucked/

I think that the real message to be gleaned from this is one that particular millennial let fly right over his woefully self-obsessed head, even though he mentioned his mother having to work for minimum wage (and then promptly forgot about all the older people who are facing a reality of working for shit pay with no benefits until the day they fall ill and die): EVERYBODY'S fucked.

This is not a gen-Y problem. This is an everybody problem. It's just that the people who are young adults now have the free time and energy to potentially change things, while older people who have kids and possibly mortgages are locked into a daily survival grind that leaves little time for changing society. That closing cartoon kind of sums it up, in a way he probably didn't intend it to; parents and children competing for the same shitty jobs with shitty pay, but the parents are the ones providing the "home" to move back to so they don't have a lot left to give to the cause of making shit better. Meanwhile, unemployed 20-somethings who are living at home have an opportunity to make some change with all that free time.

Time to start beheading the aristocracy, kids.

So fucking quit whining and get on it, son.

They may have more time available, but they have no political capital (everyone knows young people don't vote!) and getting involved in anything more controversial than signing an online petition might get them "in the system" somehow which can impact their ability to get jobs in the future. And to be fair, the online petitions probably get them on lists, too. Getting past the crushing helplessness that seems to be intentionally built into the current Machine is a major effort.

Middle-aged parents working at Wal-Mart also have no political capital, and they also have no energy or free time. The people who DO have political capital don't want the system to change. So basically what I'm saying is, if it's going to happen, it's young people who are going to do it. There's no one else who can, unless the middle-aged people just say fuck it and abandon their mortgages and kids so they can get on top of tearing the bricks out.

The big movements of the 60's were mostly young people, agree. Things got done.

Now we have the Houston Free Thinkers.
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The Johnny


i just think that armchair sociology can lead to discrimination, typification and scapegoating, and we can even see it in this same thread

Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 17, 2013, 01:19:55 AM
But then, without Mom and Dad's house, where would the poor millennials live, and whose internet would they use to write blogs about how they're not lazy, they're oppressed?

which boils down to "X groupality are entitled and lazy" which makes echo of the Times cover... in the world of social representations, the easier route for interpretation at one's convenience is "X groupality is, lazy, stupid or evil"

can "laziness" even be measured in a sociological manner?
<<My image in some places, is of a monster of some kind who wants to pull a string and manipulate people. Nothing could be further from the truth. People are manipulated; I just want them to be manipulated more effectively.>>

-B.F. Skinner

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Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 17, 2013, 12:47:47 AM
Quote from: Suu on May 16, 2013, 07:35:17 PM
THIS.

http://www.mattbors.com/blog/2013/05/09/millenials-arent-lazy-theyre-fucked/

I think that the real message to be gleaned from this is one that particular millennial let fly right over his woefully self-obsessed head, even though he mentioned his mother having to work for minimum wage (and then promptly forgot about all the older people who are facing a reality of working for shit pay with no benefits until the day they fall ill and die): EVERYBODY'S fucked.

This is not a gen-Y problem. This is an everybody problem. It's just that the people who are young adults now have the free time and energy to potentially change things, while older people who have kids and possibly mortgages are locked into a daily survival grind that leaves little time for changing society. That closing cartoon kind of sums it up, in a way he probably didn't intend it to; parents and children competing for the same shitty jobs with shitty pay, but the parents are the ones providing the "home" to move back to so they don't have a lot left to give to the cause of making shit better. Meanwhile, unemployed 20-somethings who are living at home have an opportunity to make some change with all that free time.

Time to start beheading the aristocracy, kids.

So fucking quit whining and get on it, son.

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