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Re: I fucking HAET PUA's
« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2013, 04:41:26 pm »
I forget who it was, but a while back someone here posted a plausible explanation as to why so many dudes get sucked into the PUA garbage. Something about how re-framing sexual relationships as a "game" with "rules" and "strategies" makes it more digestible for the kind of shy, awkward nerds who really just want a girlfriend but have no idea how to get one.
That's a pretty charitable way to look at it.

I've never heard the term "negging."  That's nasty shit.

...What these guys do is disgusting.

Before I ever heard of PUA, I remember guys trying these techniques on me and just being confused... WTF? Why is this guy being such a freak? In some cases, they were guys I might have been interested in if they hadn't been acting so fucking weird.

After I learned about the PUA scene and understood what was going on, my thought process was, this probably works on a certain percentage of women. What kind of women would it work on? Probably really insecure women with low self-esteem who come from family backgrounds that were emotionally abusive, if not physically abusive, and therefore on a fundamental and unconscious level don't believe that they are deserving of interactions that are more whole, or interactions that don't pluck at their sense of inadequacy.

And then I was sad, both for those women and for the men who fall for PUA and really don't know that all they are doing is furthering their own social dysfunction and eventual inevitable emotional pain by engaging in dysfunctional relationships with seriously damaged women.

Sure, there are some helpful messages about getting out there and meeting people, but they are inadequate shadows of the help these men could be getting through a good therapist or even a book such as the one by Horney that someone mentioned in the xkcd thread.
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”


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Re: I fucking HAET PUA's
« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2013, 07:34:48 pm »
I forget who it was, but a while back someone here posted a plausible explanation as to why so many dudes get sucked into the PUA garbage. Something about how re-framing sexual relationships as a "game" with "rules" and "strategies" makes it more digestible for the kind of shy, awkward nerds who really just want a girlfriend but have no idea how to get one.
That's a pretty charitable way to look at it.

I've never heard the term "negging."  That's nasty shit.

...What these guys do is disgusting.

Before I ever heard of PUA, I remember guys trying these techniques on me and just being confused... WTF? Why is this guy being such a freak? In some cases, they were guys I might have been interested in if they hadn't been acting so fucking weird.

After I learned about the PUA scene and understood what was going on, my thought process was, this probably works on a certain percentage of women. What kind of women would it work on? Probably really insecure women with low self-esteem who come from family backgrounds that were emotionally abusive, if not physically abusive, and therefore on a fundamental and unconscious level don't believe that they are deserving of interactions that are more whole, or interactions that don't pluck at their sense of inadequacy.

And then I was sad, both for those women and for the men who fall for PUA and really don't know that all they are doing is furthering their own social dysfunction and eventual inevitable emotional pain by engaging in dysfunctional relationships with seriously damaged women.

Sure, there are some helpful messages about getting out there and meeting people, but they are inadequate shadows of the help these men could be getting through a good therapist or even a book such as the one by Horney that someone mentioned in the xkcd thread.

Not to mention preying on women who are vulnerable because people fucked them up.

I do think of them as predators.
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Re: I fucking HAET PUA's
« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2013, 07:42:05 pm »
I do think of them as predators.

Ditto. Predator ranging from derpy to destructive depending on the PUA in question. Some of these guys make me laugh until I cry with their attempts, though.
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Re: I fucking HAET PUA's
« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2013, 08:05:55 pm »
This thread is getting a lot of hits from random guests. :P
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Re: I fucking HAET PUA's
« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2013, 08:51:53 pm »
This thread is getting a lot of hits from random guests. :P

PUA googlers?

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Re: I fucking HAET PUA's
« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2013, 09:46:03 pm »
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Re: I fucking HAET PUA's
« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2013, 11:29:34 pm »
Careful, don't neg...they'll think you WANT them.
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Re: I fucking HAET PUA's
« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2013, 11:38:37 pm »
http://www.laddertheory.com/

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Not sure if worth the analysis or just let it be, oh woe!
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Re: I fucking HAET PUA's
« Reply #38 on: June 23, 2013, 12:26:15 am »
http://www.laddertheory.com/

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Not sure if worth the analysis or just let it be, oh woe!

WOWWWWWWWWW
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”


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Re: I fucking HAET PUA's
« Reply #39 on: June 23, 2013, 12:32:15 am »
http://www.laddertheory.com/

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Not sure if worth the analysis or just let it be, oh woe!

WOWWWWWWWWW

That right there is special. I want you to know I'm rating you all right now. On a ladder.
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Re: I fucking HAET PUA's
« Reply #40 on: June 23, 2013, 12:38:58 am »
http://www.laddertheory.com/

 :hosrie:

Not sure if worth the analysis or just let it be, oh woe!

WOWWWWWWWWW

That right there is special. I want you to know I'm rating you all right now. On a ladder.

BUT WHICH LADDER?
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”


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Re: I fucking HAET PUA's
« Reply #41 on: June 23, 2013, 12:42:01 am »
http://www.laddertheory.com/

 :hosrie:

Not sure if worth the analysis or just let it be, oh woe!

WOWWWWWWWWW

That right there is special. I want you to know I'm rating you all right now. On a ladder.

BUT WHICH LADDER?

The man's ladder. :P
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Re: I fucking HAET PUA's
« Reply #42 on: June 23, 2013, 12:45:18 am »
Remember men, women will value your intelligence and sense of humor but they'd always rather fuck an unemployed alcoholic or an outlaw biker. Consider a career in crime.
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Re: I fucking HAET PUA's
« Reply #43 on: June 23, 2013, 12:58:46 am »
http://www.laddertheory.com/

 :hosrie:

Not sure if worth the analysis or just let it be, oh woe!

WOWWWWWWWWW

That right there is special. I want you to know I'm rating you all right now. On a ladder.

*simulates "alpha male" patterns of behaviour to pique your interest, then dissapear for a week to keep you intrigued*

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Re: I fucking HAET PUA's
« Reply #44 on: June 23, 2013, 01:00:38 am »
TBH i lurked there for like 6 months, so i kinda know more than i should, never quite bought it do.