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Who says this is a "do nothing" congress?

Started by Doktor Howl, June 28, 2013, 08:49:15 PM

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GIT YER NOSE OUT THAT GODDAMN BOOK AND GIT A REAL JOB
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QuoteSallie Mae CEO Jack Remondi said poor planning exacerbates a borrower's burden, regardless of the rate on the loan. Sallie Mae is the largest provider of private student loans.

"If you overborrow, whether the rate is 4 percent or 7 percent, you're still going to encounter difficulties," Remondi said. "A plan that takes into consideration what your income potential is going to be when you graduate and what that debt burden is going to be is critical."

Sounds like they want to herd people into more "profitable" majors.
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

FUUUUUUUCK.

I'm already coming out of community college with over $20k in debt, with three more years at university. I am going to try to get a McNair scholarship but even if I do I can't imagine I'll walk away from my undergrad with less than $40k in debt.

THAT IS COMPLETELY INSANE AND NOT OK. FOR THE RECORD.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Cain

Quote from: Emo Howard on June 28, 2013, 11:46:49 PM
QuoteSallie Mae CEO Jack Remondi said poor planning exacerbates a borrower's burden, regardless of the rate on the loan. Sallie Mae is the largest provider of private student loans.

"If you overborrow, whether the rate is 4 percent or 7 percent, you're still going to encounter difficulties," Remondi said. "A plan that takes into consideration what your income potential is going to be when you graduate and what that debt burden is going to be is critical."

Sounds like they want to herd people into more "profitable" majors.

I think you're probably right.

A lot of percieved high-paying courses, such as law*, tend to be extremely expensive anyway, and often require additional training on top of the usual courses.  Which means you can keep on extracting those high fees.

*the actual average pay of a law graduate is pretty dismal.  You have a few high earners skewing the results, essentially.

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I'm hoping that I can qualify for the loan forgiveness thingie they offer for 10 years of public service.

...If I am actually in a bureaucracy as a somewhat less-fireable person than I currently am...think of all the FUN I could have.

...Everyone should have at least one anarchic mystic in their bureaucracy.

The Republicans, like their base, are putting their collective fingers in their collective ears and going "LALALALALALALA!"

This 8-year attack of rampant immaturity will be remembered.
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Cain

Hah, no it wont.

Something something Kenyan President something socialism something who lost Syria something something fascist.

Left

Quote from: Cain on June 29, 2013, 01:04:12 AM
Hah, no it wont.

Something something Kenyan President something socialism something who lost Syria something something fascist.

I'm thinking the college kids who are about to be fucked over.
...It drives me crazy what a short national memory we have.
Hope was the thing with feathers.
I smacked it with a hammer until it was red and squashy

The Johnny


here public school is actually free... need to claw your way thru the exam, cause only like 15% of those applying get in, but still, free!
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Cain

Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on June 29, 2013, 01:12:05 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 29, 2013, 01:04:12 AM
Hah, no it wont.

Something something Kenyan President something socialism something who lost Syria something something fascist.

I'm thinking the college kids who are about to be fucked over.
...It drives me crazy what a short national memory we have.

Youth and college vote already overwhelmingly goes to the Democrats anyway.  Why would the Republicans care?  It's not their voters they'll be fucking over.

Trivial

Does somehow paying off my loans without ever getting the job I went to college for mean I win?  Do I get cake?
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Quote from: Mome Papess Trivial on June 29, 2013, 03:31:01 AM
Does somehow paying off my loans without ever getting the job I went to college for mean I win?  Do I get cake?

I can one up this. I never even went to college! And I still have debts!


Wait, that didn't work out the way it looked in my head..
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Quote from: The Johnny on June 29, 2013, 01:14:03 AM

here public school is actually free... need to claw your way thru the exam, cause only like 15% of those applying get in, but still, free!

We wouldn't be complaining if the cost hadn't skyrocketed, TBH...and at the same time the crap economy makes it more likely the damn debts will be there forever, like our own personal little black cloud.

...This isn't the only thing making me afraid to go back to school, but it's part of it.  I have to take credits at the big-pants 4-year-college now, and the cost is double what my community college was.
I dread the idea of being worse than broke.  Right now I'm fairly broke but not in debt.  It could be worse.
Hope was the thing with feathers.
I smacked it with a hammer until it was red and squashy

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Cain on June 29, 2013, 12:06:47 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on June 28, 2013, 11:46:49 PM
QuoteSallie Mae CEO Jack Remondi said poor planning exacerbates a borrower's burden, regardless of the rate on the loan. Sallie Mae is the largest provider of private student loans.

"If you overborrow, whether the rate is 4 percent or 7 percent, you're still going to encounter difficulties," Remondi said. "A plan that takes into consideration what your income potential is going to be when you graduate and what that debt burden is going to be is critical."

Sounds like they want to herd people into more "profitable" majors.

I think you're probably right.

A lot of percieved high-paying courses, such as law*, tend to be extremely expensive anyway, and often require additional training on top of the usual courses.  Which means you can keep on extracting those high fees.

*the actual average pay of a law graduate is pretty dismal.  You have a few high earners skewing the results, essentially.

Law and business aren't even on the scale for future "American expansion" degrees. Pretty much the only degrees which are are bio and chem degrees, and even those are up against a shitstorm of limited funding. America has essentially stated that it could give a flying fuck about being on the forefront of scientific advancement.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

I think schools are still happily absorbing the morons who think an MBA or a law degree is a guarantee of a bright upper-middle-class future.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."