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Re: WEIRDOVERSE
« Reply #495 on: August 24, 2019, 09:09:48 pm »
Aww, mate, gutted to hear that. Better luck next time. Gotta agree with your more business savvy collaborators, tho. Free is never the way to go. "This shit is worthless" has to be the worst advertising copy ever. ;)
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Re: WEIRDOVERSE
« Reply #496 on: August 25, 2019, 03:35:34 pm »

Thanks for the support, Pent!

And I'd guess you might be right about giving things away for free, though I'm still glad I did what I did at the show. 

That was 14 years ago though, so it's easy to just remember it as a fun adventure, and celebrate my absurd pyrrhic victory  :fnord: :fnord: :fnord:

I was reminded of that day because I recently pulled a similar move with OMNIBUS 777 albeit with a long con in mind this time!




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« Reply #497 on: August 26, 2019, 12:31:22 am »
Totally missed the "2005" part. Thot you was describing your weekend  :lulz:
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« Reply #498 on: August 27, 2019, 02:09:35 am »
No sweat, Pent! There wasn't much context beyond my own free association  :fnord: :fnord: :fnord:

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« Reply #499 on: August 27, 2019, 05:22:53 am »
I love that one the most of all your stuff and all your stuff is a high bar to beat. You nailed my interests.
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« Reply #500 on: August 29, 2019, 04:05:57 am »
Thanks so much, null!

I just realized I forgot to add the caption. Updated version is posted above.

I originally drew that way back in 2004. All those dots are hand made via crayola color change markers  :fnord: :fnord: :fnord:

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Re: Life in the Underground Press
« Reply #502 on: September 10, 2019, 04:44:47 pm »


Our intrepid group of plucky young punk rock artists arrived at the 2005 Philly Zine Fest with a wide assortment of indie comix & art, ready to introduce ourselves to a wider world, that we optimistically assumed would welcome us with open arms and wallets. I mean, why wouldn't they?

We'd worked so hard, published so many comix, and were so gd excited, that the idea of failure had never really crossed our minds. I mean, why would it?

But after about 2 hours of complete invisibility to the passing crowd of festival attendees a desperate idea occurred to me. Give the comix out for free. It was clear we weren't going to make any money from this event, and as poverty stricken as I was at the time, the point of the comix weren't to make money anyway, it was to communicate. So I called out the audible, maybe much to the chagrin of some of my more business savvy collaborators, all of the comix on the table were now free.

And the momentum of the day swung rapidly in our favor! Our once desolate corner was now mobbed with people, we were in the mix! We were meeting the world and the world was meeting us and it was joyous and awesome.

At the end of the day we had put several hundred comix into circulation. It felt great. It felt like we'd taken a loss and turned it into a win. It felt like this was the thing that was going to lead to the next thing, and we'd look back on this day as a pivotal turning point.

As we left the venue, feeling entirely elated, I beheld a wild spectacle! The courtyard of the venue, in lovely West Philadelphia, covered in our discarded comix, blowing in the wind. Overflowing trashcans stuffed with our comix, spilling out into an indifferent universe. Our comix were literal garbage. In light of such dramatic evidence it would have been tough to deny that I'd made a tactical blunder, but I did it anyway, and with a tightly balled fist raised to sky, defiantly declared,
"THEN WE'LL CHOKE THEIR RIVERS WITH OUR DEAD!"

The problem with Weirdoverse is that it has appeal, but much of it is incomprehensible to people that aren't already in on "the joke".  The recent John Adams one being an exception, because it's a gut punch that talks to everyone who can read it.  This is why WE all love it, but the convention-goers not so much...And almost nobody pays for a punch to the gut.  Nor will they pay for cameos of characters that may be very well developed in your head, but have no relevance to anyone outside of yourself and people you have discussed them with.

Also, comics conventions appeal to people who want a story (even if it is the same story for 70+ years, but that's another rant).  If this is your model for distributing ideas, you need to have a vehicle.  An example of this would be Wilson's Schroedinger's Cat trilogy.  The story very obviously exists only to carry specific ideas to the public.  Which is why, when he ran out of the ideas he wanted to transmit, he couldn't finish it properly and it ended with 30+ pages of James Joyce bullshit.  Nobody on this planet liked the story, but everyone remembers the IDEAS that he put forth.

This isn't a criticism of your work, which I find to be brilliant, but rather a flat statement about the marketing of your ideas.
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Re: Life in the Underground Press
« Reply #503 on: September 12, 2019, 03:45:28 am »

The problem with Weirdoverse is that it has appeal, but much of it is incomprehensible to people that aren't already in on "the joke".  The recent John Adams one being an exception, because it's a gut punch that talks to everyone who can read it.  This is why WE all love it, but the convention-goers not so much...And almost nobody pays for a punch to the gut.  Nor will they pay for cameos of characters that may be very well developed in your head, but have no relevance to anyone outside of yourself and people you have discussed them with.

Also, comics conventions appeal to people who want a story (even if it is the same story for 70+ years, but that's another rant).  If this is your model for distributing ideas, you need to have a vehicle.  An example of this would be Wilson's Schroedinger's Cat trilogy.  The story very obviously exists only to carry specific ideas to the public.  Which is why, when he ran out of the ideas he wanted to transmit, he couldn't finish it properly and it ended with 30+ pages of James Joyce bullshit.  Nobody on this planet liked the story, but everyone remembers the IDEAS that he put forth.

This isn't a criticism of your work, which I find to be brilliant, but rather a flat statement about the marketing of your ideas.

That is incredibly helpful, Dok! Thank you very kindly :fnord: :fnord: :fnord:

I'm slowly but surely working my way towards something a bit more user friendly.

I'm much less concerned with the traditional metrics of success these days, and I was already pretty loosey-goosey, but I really just want to make something that anyone could pick up and enjoy.
Whether or not they actually do isn't something for me to worry about, but just the idea that they could.

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