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Started by Random Probability, July 15, 2013, 11:44:27 PM

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LMNO

Heh, I remember when you did that experiment on facebook, seeing how quickly you could turn all the newsfeed ads to being about NASCAR.  I think it only took a few mentions and a Like or two...

Q. G. Pennyworth

Cram, did you take a look at Salt Your Data?

Junkenstein

Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Cramulus

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 16, 2013, 04:48:35 PM
Heh, I remember when you did that experiment on facebook, seeing how quickly you could turn all the newsfeed ads to being about NASCAR.  I think it only took a few mentions and a Like or two...

Yep, and I still see NASCAR ads. As well as a bunch of other random stuff, because after reading that paper I "liked" a bunch of things which peg me as an elderly black lesbian.

Actually, to be honest, I have a browser plugin installed which hides facebook ads, so I don't see them unless I'm on a weird browser.

I think it's SO CREEPY that we are basically arming marketers with our psychic weak points. If you have "liked" the following things - Yahoo, Lipton Brisk, and Footlocker -- there is an overwhelming chance you are a heterosexual woman. If you've "liked" Cradle Of Filth, Under Armour, or the band Slayer, you are a cigarette smoker. Knowing that about you, they can target you with specific ads with imagery you are susceptible to.

Quote from: Junkenstein on July 16, 2013, 04:52:05 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on July 16, 2013, 04:49:18 PM
Cram, did you take a look at Salt Your Data?

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,34819.0.html

I'm HELPING. Because it's fucking wonderful.

Wow, I like that a lot! You hit it right there - the best foil to data mining is genuine unpredictability.

Cramulus


Doktor Howl

Quote from: Cramulus on July 16, 2013, 05:06:54 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 16, 2013, 04:48:35 PM
Heh, I remember when you did that experiment on facebook, seeing how quickly you could turn all the newsfeed ads to being about NASCAR.  I think it only took a few mentions and a Like or two...

Yep, and I still see NASCAR ads. As well as a bunch of other random stuff, because after reading that paper I "liked" a bunch of things which peg me as an elderly black lesbian.

Actually, to be honest, I have a browser plugin installed which hides facebook ads, so I don't see them unless I'm on a weird browser.

I think it's SO CREEPY that we are basically arming marketers with our psychic weak points. If you have "liked" the following things - Yahoo, Lipton Brisk, and Footlocker -- there is an overwhelming chance you are a heterosexual woman. If you've "liked" Cradle Of Filth, Under Armour, or the band Slayer, you are a cigarette smoker. Knowing that about you, they can target you with specific ads with imagery you are susceptible to.


Just wait.  Eventually, Facebook will charge, and people will PAY to know what they really want.
Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Cramulus on July 16, 2013, 05:07:33 PM
Here's another similar tool under development: http://adage.com/article/privacy-and-regulation/student-project-kill-digital-ad-targeting/242955/

Interesting ideas!

How long do you figure before they brand this as some form of perjury or terrorism?
Molon Lube

Junkenstein

Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 16, 2013, 05:08:19 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on July 16, 2013, 05:06:54 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 16, 2013, 04:48:35 PM
Heh, I remember when you did that experiment on facebook, seeing how quickly you could turn all the newsfeed ads to being about NASCAR.  I think it only took a few mentions and a Like or two...

Yep, and I still see NASCAR ads. As well as a bunch of other random stuff, because after reading that paper I "liked" a bunch of things which peg me as an elderly black lesbian.

Actually, to be honest, I have a browser plugin installed which hides facebook ads, so I don't see them unless I'm on a weird browser.

I think it's SO CREEPY that we are basically arming marketers with our psychic weak points. If you have "liked" the following things - Yahoo, Lipton Brisk, and Footlocker -- there is an overwhelming chance you are a heterosexual woman. If you've "liked" Cradle Of Filth, Under Armour, or the band Slayer, you are a cigarette smoker. Knowing that about you, they can target you with specific ads with imagery you are susceptible to.


Just wait.  Eventually, Facebook will charge, and people will PAY to know what they really want.

Anyone else remember the Facebook ID card? That shit is coming. I feel it in my bones.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Junkenstein on July 16, 2013, 07:18:41 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 16, 2013, 05:08:19 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on July 16, 2013, 05:06:54 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 16, 2013, 04:48:35 PM
Heh, I remember when you did that experiment on facebook, seeing how quickly you could turn all the newsfeed ads to being about NASCAR.  I think it only took a few mentions and a Like or two...

Yep, and I still see NASCAR ads. As well as a bunch of other random stuff, because after reading that paper I "liked" a bunch of things which peg me as an elderly black lesbian.

Actually, to be honest, I have a browser plugin installed which hides facebook ads, so I don't see them unless I'm on a weird browser.

I think it's SO CREEPY that we are basically arming marketers with our psychic weak points. If you have "liked" the following things - Yahoo, Lipton Brisk, and Footlocker -- there is an overwhelming chance you are a heterosexual woman. If you've "liked" Cradle Of Filth, Under Armour, or the band Slayer, you are a cigarette smoker. Knowing that about you, they can target you with specific ads with imagery you are susceptible to.


Just wait.  Eventually, Facebook will charge, and people will PAY to know what they really want.

Anyone else remember the Facebook ID card? That shit is coming. I feel it in my bones.

In less than 24 months.  Shit, less than a year.
Molon Lube

Sita

And then I'd never touch FB again.
Will also cause me to lose touch with any family that isn't my parents. Though I wouldn't call that a bad thing, we barely talk anyway.
:ninja:
Laugh, even if you are screaming inside. Smile, because the world doesn't care if you feel like crying.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Sita on July 16, 2013, 07:58:03 PM
And then I'd never touch FB again.
Will also cause me to lose touch with any family that isn't my parents. Though I wouldn't call that a bad thing, we barely talk anyway.

Who says they'll tell you about it?
Molon Lube

Sita

I'd think if it would be paid to use or you needed an ID card you would know about it fairly quick. That's not exactly something that can just be hidden in profile settings.
:ninja:
Laugh, even if you are screaming inside. Smile, because the world doesn't care if you feel like crying.

Cramulus

What's a facebook ID card? I googled it and saw a bunch of art projects, but nothing too scary in the first few hits.

I don't think FB is going to charge for usage... they make far more money by selling data about their users. In order to stay on top of the social network war they need to keep people there. Putting up a paywall would make people flee like rats off a sinking ship.

A few years back I was posting official looking "IMAGE BLOCKED UNLESS YOU HAVE A FACEBOOK GOLD ACCOUNT" images and people screamed blue murder.  :lulz:

AFK

All of my FB ads are gambling and drug rehabilitation. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Cramulus

yeah that's appropriate - speaking as a friend, you should really address your gambling and drug problem