What did you do with my RWHN?

[Suu]

And now I'm totally confused. 

[P3nT4gR4m]

Examine it all the fuck you want.  Dont give the sack of crap any more attention than he deserves though.  Unless maybe some attention in the form of blunt instruments against his skull.

I'm starting to worry about who is the monster here.

Due process of law, dude, or you are just another lynch mob with a bad attitude.

Give him due process.  If he's guilty, give him what he deserves.

A life that doesn't turn him into a monster? Some love and compassion?

You CRAY CRAY, P3nt, the only thing that can SAVE THE CHILLEN is PUNISHMENT. Lots and lots of PUNISHMENT.

I'M CONFUSED I THOUGHT IT WAS THE CHILLEN WHO HAD TO GO TO JAIL 

Well, YES. To SAVE them from PREDATORS. Can't you see?

Well, there is a kinda retarded, RWHN-style logic in it but I refuse to accept it, given that following to conclusion means the most effective way of protecting the children is to shoot them at birth. Hopefully he's too fucking stupid to figure this out, tho. ..


*reads last couple of years worth of posts*


...Yeah, pretty confident he lacks the intellectual capacity

[Junkenstein]

Aaaaand the bullshit goes on:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23370205

A US police photographer has leaked images of Boston Marathon suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev during his capture in anger at the picture used by Rolling Stone magazine for its next cover.

Police Sgt Sean Murphy said his photos showed "the real bomber" - the magazine cover was "hurtful" to the victims' memories and their families.

Article unclear, but it appears the leaker is the guy named.

Note - Police. Surely this is a fucking sackable offence?
Note 2 - Arbitrary decison on what is right and best for victims
note 3 - Appears not to have consulted any victims or have a direct link.

More:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57594535-504083/sgt-sean-murphy-mass-state-police-photographer-who-released-photos-of-tsarnaevs-capture-supended/

Murphy, who did not return a message from the AP, said in his statement to Boston Magazine that Rolling Stone's cover photo, a softly-lit image of a brooding Tsarnaev, insults officers killed in the line of duty, their colleagues and their families by glamorizing the "face of terror."

Typical police reaction. Got a confession, got my monster lets demonize the little fuck and not think about why or how this could happen. Also, the continued guilty before trial as MMIX noted. Serious kudos there because that's probably a really good discussion.

In his statement, Murphy said the capture of Tsarnaev played out like a television show, but he hopes his photos show it was "as real as it gets."

"These were real people, with real lives, with real families," Murphy said. "And to have this cover dropped into Boston was hurtful to their memories and their families."

He added: "There is nothing glamorous in bringing more pain to a grieving family."

So yeah, this guy is an moralistic prick. "My image is more real than any other image because I was there and I know how everyone feels about everything"

[LMNO]

However, it may have brought the fundamental question to light if the cover had BOTH pictures, in split screen.

[Junkenstein]

However, it may have brought the fundamental question to light if the cover had BOTH pictures, in split screen.

That's an incredibly good idea.

[East Coast Hustle]

But, but, but....that's different because.....

Oh, and to address this:

Martin wasn't a terrorist. He didn't blow anyone up. Neither did Zimmerman. They got into a scuffle for a stupid reason and Zimmerman survived.

Tsarnaev on the other hand, did in fact blow people up. And the fact that a kid got blown up is irrelevant. Human life is human life, regardless of age (and honestly, that you would qualify the value of human life inversely proportionate to age disgusts me), and maimed hundreds.

And yet, Gojira and I seem to be ok with him being portrayed as good kid gone wrong. Because that's what the fuck happened.

The fact that a kid got blown up is irrelevant?  Really? 

Dude, that is just a level of wrong I can't comprehend.  Come back and tell me that again when you have kids of your own.

you do realize that your ridiculous idea that children's lives are worth more than other peoples' is ABSOLUTELY FUCKING INSANE, right?

[Q. G. Pennyworth]

"My image is more real than any other image because I was there and I know how everyone feels about everything"

THIS. This is the thing I couldn't quite put my finger on yesterday. It's okay to have feels about something that didn't happen to you or near you, but when you start trying to HAVE FEELS AT THEM or tell them how they're supposed to be feeling, you fail at empathy. Also at not being a dick.

[East Coast Hustle]

Hmm, I can go along with that.  Put him in a prison in Mass.  Mix him in with the general population.

You sound like Florida. You know that, right?

[LMNO]

"You sound like Florida" is now my new favorite burn.

[East Coast Hustle]

I'm up to bat.

I'm gonna swing...here it goes:


Suddenly, the idea that Ex-Mrs. RWHN was having a mid-life crisis seems like bullshit.

Nah, she'd be on the same page as me on this.  RWHN-GF is.  In fact she's the one who made me aware of this.

Suddenly I'm glad the concept of balancing free states with slave states booted you guys out of the Commonwealth.

No shit. This is proving NH and ME are really just conglomo Texas North.

The funny thing is I expected more from ME. I mean, we all know that NH is full of insane people. I guess Mainiacs just hide it a bit better.

The fucked-up shithole part of Maine that RWHN is in bears almost no resemblance to the rest of the state. He's basically in Lowell North.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Ah. That makes more sense.

[East Coast Hustle]

Thread summary:

RWHN: "PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES, IT'S DANGEROUS"

Discordians: "Why are you here, again?"

Same as every RWHN thread.

Not even close.

It's at least half right.

Not even.


At no point have I suggested people can't think for themselves.  I support chains like CVS and Walgreens pulling the edition because they feel it is the right thing to do by their customer base.  A customer base that includes many stores in the Greater Boston area.  However, people still have plenty of other options to get the edition if they really want it, and I imagine at this point you can probably find the article online as well.  So there are no shortage of ways to get and read the article. 


I've been very clear what my objection is (assface on the cover like a rock star) and what that is based in (insensitivity to victims/exploiting and minimizing tragedy). 


That's all this thread was about, voicing my opinion and displeasure about putting him on the cover,  I didn't suggest the government should do anything about it, I didn't say it should be banned.  This was made about me because you guys wanted it to be about me.  Because it still seems to short circuit brains around here that a Discordian thinks a little differently than them. 


You really should get over that shit. 

The part where we don't understand why you still post at PD is what he meant by it being at least half-right. Seriously, why ARE you here? Pretty much everyone else here either hates your guts or ignores you because they can't be bothered to hate your guts.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

I wouldnt say i hate the guy. Im more flabbergasted and disappointed that someone who struck me as a smart guy has turned into a vengeance monkey that seems to go out of his way to misinterpret like everything.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

However, it may have brought the fundamental question to light if the cover had BOTH pictures, in split screen.

They didn't have those pictures, so they couldn't have.

Also, possibly an interesting observation: in the pictures of him bloody and hunted, he looks anguished and overwhelmed. If anything, I feel a stronger sympathetic response to those pictures than to the one RS used.

I'm interested in knowing the whole story, someday. He is, after all, just a fucking kid.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I mean, FFS, look at this:





These are images of a child who is completely lost. What happened to him? How did he get there? Those are important questions, especially to those of us who have children. But, also, really, for everyone.