What did you do with my RWHN?

[Nephew Twiddleton]

I mean think about that RWHN-

You're saying that this guy is heinous because a kid died instead of a human died. That's pretty fucked up.

No he's heinous for killing and maiming them all.  What I said was the dead kid is more worthy of getting rock star status on magazine than assface.  That goes for the adults he killed and maimed too.  Any of them were more deserving.

He's not getting rockstar status. You're daft if you think he is.

[Left]

Suspected thought process: Rolling Stone glorified terrorisism. This is my evidence for their being Bad People.

Challenge: Maybe that wasn't their aim and this is a misinterpretation?

NONSENSE. Glorifying terrorism is exactly the sort of thing Bad People do and considering as I have already demonstrated that Rolling Stone are Bad People, it all fits together rather well!

Circular logic detected.

[AFK]

But, but, but....that's different because.....

Oh, and to address this:

Martin wasn't a terrorist. He didn't blow anyone up. Neither did Zimmerman. They got into a scuffle for a stupid reason and Zimmerman survived.

Tsarnaev on the other hand, did in fact blow people up. And the fact that a kid got blown up is irrelevant. Human life is human life, regardless of age (and honestly, that you would qualify the value of human life inversely proportionate to age disgusts me), and maimed hundreds.

And yet, Gojira and I seem to be ok with him being portrayed as good kid gone wrong. Because that's what the fuck happened.

The fact that a kid got blown up is irrelevant?  Really? 

Dude, that is just a level of wrong I can't comprehend.  Come back and tell me that again when you have kids of your own.

So a kid is more valuable than an adult?

Than a cowardly, murdering sack of shit?  Fucking right it is.

No shithead. You're talking about ONE victim based on his age, rather than the victims COLLECTIVELY.

I used him as an example to say the victims are more worthy of glamorization on a cover than the sack of shit.  Pay attention.

[Pæs]

But, but, but....that's different because.....

Oh, and to address this:

Martin wasn't a terrorist. He didn't blow anyone up. Neither did Zimmerman. They got into a scuffle for a stupid reason and Zimmerman survived.

Tsarnaev on the other hand, did in fact blow people up. And the fact that a kid got blown up is irrelevant. Human life is human life, regardless of age (and honestly, that you would qualify the value of human life inversely proportionate to age disgusts me), and maimed hundreds.

And yet, Gojira and I seem to be ok with him being portrayed as good kid gone wrong. Because that's what the fuck happened.

The fact that a kid got blown up is irrelevant?  Really? 

Dude, that is just a level of wrong I can't comprehend.  Come back and tell me that again when you have kids of your own.

So a kid is more valuable than an adult?

Than a cowardly, murdering sack of shit?  Fucking right it is.

Maybe it's time we start talking around RWHN and use him to illustrate someone only capable of seeing as far as "monster", because he's quite effectively repeating the exact position being spoken to by the cover. I feel as if, because it's his own mindset being challenged, he's had to interpret the cover the way he has to avoid examining his own beliefs.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

But, but, but....that's different because.....

Oh, and to address this:

Martin wasn't a terrorist. He didn't blow anyone up. Neither did Zimmerman. They got into a scuffle for a stupid reason and Zimmerman survived.

Tsarnaev on the other hand, did in fact blow people up. And the fact that a kid got blown up is irrelevant. Human life is human life, regardless of age (and honestly, that you would qualify the value of human life inversely proportionate to age disgusts me), and maimed hundreds.

And yet, Gojira and I seem to be ok with him being portrayed as good kid gone wrong. Because that's what the fuck happened.

The fact that a kid got blown up is irrelevant?  Really? 

Dude, that is just a level of wrong I can't comprehend.  Come back and tell me that again when you have kids of your own.

So a kid is more valuable than an adult?

Than a cowardly, murdering sack of shit?  Fucking right it is.

No shithead. You're talking about ONE victim based on his age, rather than the victims COLLECTIVELY.

I used him as an example to say the victims are more worthy of glamorization on a cover than the sack of shit.  Pay attention.

And yet, you singled out the kid and then turned around and told me, after I asserted that all human life is equally valuable that I should get back to you when I have a kid.

It's all about the kids.

[AFK]

This guy's a monster because he killed a kid. Nevermind the two adults though and the hundreds of injured. That's just everyday bombings. This one kid makes it all different.

Try reading the whole thread before you put those words in my mouth, ass.  I've referenced the other victims in this thread multiple times now, I just used the kid, again, to illustrate the point that the victims are more worthy than the murderer to be getting the spotlight.

[AFK]

But, but, but....that's different because.....

Oh, and to address this:

Martin wasn't a terrorist. He didn't blow anyone up. Neither did Zimmerman. They got into a scuffle for a stupid reason and Zimmerman survived.

Tsarnaev on the other hand, did in fact blow people up. And the fact that a kid got blown up is irrelevant. Human life is human life, regardless of age (and honestly, that you would qualify the value of human life inversely proportionate to age disgusts me), and maimed hundreds.

And yet, Gojira and I seem to be ok with him being portrayed as good kid gone wrong. Because that's what the fuck happened.

The fact that a kid got blown up is irrelevant?  Really? 

Dude, that is just a level of wrong I can't comprehend.  Come back and tell me that again when you have kids of your own.

So a kid is more valuable than an adult?

Than a cowardly, murdering sack of shit?  Fucking right it is.

No shithead. You're talking about ONE victim based on his age, rather than the victims COLLECTIVELY.

I used him as an example to say the victims are more worthy of glamorization on a cover than the sack of shit.  Pay attention.

And yet, you singled out the kid and then turned around and told me, after I asserted that all human life is equally valuable that I should get back to you when I have a kid.

It's all about the kids.

Because you said the death of a kid is irrelevant.  A kid dying is never fucking irrelevant.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

This guy's a monster because he killed a kid. Nevermind the two adults though and the hundreds of injured. That's just everyday bombings. This one kid makes it all different.

Try reading the whole thread before you put those words in my mouth, ass.  I've referenced the other victims in this thread multiple times now, I just used the kid, again, to illustrate the point that the victims are more worthy than the murderer to be getting the spotlight.

Uh, so then why do I need kids to understand? As opposed to living in the city that got bombed?

[Nephew Twiddleton]

But, but, but....that's different because.....

Oh, and to address this:

Martin wasn't a terrorist. He didn't blow anyone up. Neither did Zimmerman. They got into a scuffle for a stupid reason and Zimmerman survived.

Tsarnaev on the other hand, did in fact blow people up. And the fact that a kid got blown up is irrelevant. Human life is human life, regardless of age (and honestly, that you would qualify the value of human life inversely proportionate to age disgusts me), and maimed hundreds.

And yet, Gojira and I seem to be ok with him being portrayed as good kid gone wrong. Because that's what the fuck happened.

The fact that a kid got blown up is irrelevant?  Really? 

Dude, that is just a level of wrong I can't comprehend.  Come back and tell me that again when you have kids of your own.

So a kid is more valuable than an adult?

Than a cowardly, murdering sack of shit?  Fucking right it is.

No shithead. You're talking about ONE victim based on his age, rather than the victims COLLECTIVELY.

I used him as an example to say the victims are more worthy of glamorization on a cover than the sack of shit.  Pay attention.

And yet, you singled out the kid and then turned around and told me, after I asserted that all human life is equally valuable that I should get back to you when I have a kid.

It's all about the kids.

Because you said the death of a kid is irrelevant.  A kid dying is never fucking irrelevant.

So you do place different values on human life, dependent on age.

Look, it sucks that that kid died. It would suck equally if it was just all adults that died.

[AFK]

This guy's a monster because he killed a kid. Nevermind the two adults though and the hundreds of injured. That's just everyday bombings. This one kid makes it all different.

Try reading the whole thread before you put those words in my mouth, ass.  I've referenced the other victims in this thread multiple times now, I just used the kid, again, to illustrate the point that the victims are more worthy than the murderer to be getting the spotlight.

Uh, so then why do I need kids to understand? As opposed to living in the city that got bombed?

To understand that death coming to a child is never irrelevant. 

[Left]

Nobody getting murdered is irrelevant.
...That still doesn't mean we need to censor shit.
What happened was important and we need to be able to examine it even if it offends.

[Pæs]

I think it's interesting and Rolling Stone's aim to highlight that we're not allowed to talk about the people behind acts of evil. Once the act has been committed, they're not allowed to be people any more, they have to be a monster or a "sack of shit". We (PD) are used to being a group of people talking about kneejerk (for lack of a better word) reactions, rather than to them directly, which (if it weren't for RWHN's history) I might think was part of our inability to discuss this in this thread.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

This guy's a monster because he killed a kid. Nevermind the two adults though and the hundreds of injured. That's just everyday bombings. This one kid makes it all different.

Try reading the whole thread before you put those words in my mouth, ass.  I've referenced the other victims in this thread multiple times now, I just used the kid, again, to illustrate the point that the victims are more worthy than the murderer to be getting the spotlight.

Uh, so then why do I need kids to understand? As opposed to living in the city that got bombed?

To understand that death coming to a child is never irrelevant.

Insofar as that child is a human, yes.

That human's AGE is irrelevant.

[AFK]

Examine it all the fuck you want.  Dont give the sack of crap any more attention than he deserves though.  Unless maybe some attention in the form of blunt instruments against his skull.

[Left]

I think it's interesting and Rolling Stone's aim to highlight that we're not allowed to talk about the people behind acts of evil. Once the act has been committed, they're not allowed to be people any more, they have to be a monster or a "sack of shit". We (PD) are used to being a group of people talking about kneejerk (for lack of a better word) reactions, rather than to them directly, which (if it weren't for RWHN's history) I might think was part of our inability to discuss this in this thread.

...it places the problem entirely on the "monster".

...Instead of looking at why he or she is a product of our fucked-up society that discards people like kleenexes.