How We Protect At-Risk Kids.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

"I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."

Shame, cos you're the only fucking person who's listening 

[The Good Reverend Roger]

The one thing of value that has come from these threads is this:  I used to think that "prevention" was a good use of resources.  Now I understand that it's just another way of keeping CCA's pockets nice and full, because "prevention" is just "prohibition in a funny dress".  It's the Volstead Act rebranded.  Only this, and nothing more.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

You can't respond without listening.

That's an extra funny one, because he's been responding to posts he clearly hasn't read at all for YEARS.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

The one thing of value that has come from these threads is this:  I used to think that "prevention" was a good use of resources.  Now I understand that it's just another way of keeping CCA's pockets nice and full, because "prevention" is just "prohibition in a funny dress".  It's the Volstead Act rebranded.  Only this, and nothing more.

Yeah, it's just another avenue for getting cops into schools and sending "undesirables" to prison.

Anyone involved in "drug prevention" is a de facto racist, classist piece of shit.

[AFK]

See, the deal is, it doesn't matter of thing x is more dangerous, or more addictive, or more whatever than marijuana.  Because that isn't the question.  Whether or not marijuana should be legal should be based on its own merits as a substance, based on its own qualities.  In that respect, for me, it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to legalize as the impacts of marijuana on youth, on public health, and on society are abundantly clear. 

That isn't the question because you know the answer completely undermines who you are—an unquestioning conformist who has based his moral identity around the Controlled Substances Act (which is fundamentally about comparing how dangerous different substances are).

If you seriously entertained that question you might have to admit that the policies you've helped defend have actually led to more harm to society and you'd have to rethink your entire sense of self, your entire sense of worth. Easier to keep pulling the wool over your own eyes, eh?

If this little prohibition song and dance that you do isn't to convince us, perhaps it's to convince yourself?

I think that's all it's about at this point. He ignores absolutely everything that doesn't fit into his Black Iron Prison.

This seems like a good time to remind the gentle reader that I was supportive of his viewpoint right up until the point where I asked him whether both perspectives might be based in valid evidence, and he unequivocally denied that the decriminalization perspective could have a valid basis.

1.  Bullshit revisionist history
2.  decriminalization =\= legalization (I thought you were supposed to be the smart one)
3.   

[The Good Reverend Roger]

The one thing of value that has come from these threads is this:  I used to think that "prevention" was a good use of resources.  Now I understand that it's just another way of keeping CCA's pockets nice and full, because "prevention" is just "prohibition in a funny dress".  It's the Volstead Act rebranded.  Only this, and nothing more.

Yeah, it's just another avenue for getting cops into schools and sending "undesirables" to prison.

Anyone involved in "drug prevention" is a de facto racist, classist piece of shit.

Yep.  And the latter is patently obvious from RHWN's claim that HE isn't putting HIS kids at risk by making alcohol accessible, but OTHER people are.  And I think I can guess who those other people are.


Also, "MARIJUANA POISONING!"

[The Good Reverend Roger]

1.  Bullshit revisionist history

AND he's a liar, as can be seen here.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I do kind of hope he sticks around for another five years because the inevitable meltdown when his kids start smoking pot is going to be amazing.

[AFK]

The one thing of value that has come from these threads is this:  I used to think that "prevention" was a good use of resources.  Now I understand that it's just another way of keeping CCA's pockets nice and full, because "prevention" is just "prohibition in a funny dress".  It's the Volstead Act rebranded.  Only this, and nothing more.

I used to think you were a rational thinker immune to bullshit conspiracy theory talking points.


These threads have definitely proved otherwise.

[AFK]

I do kind of hope he sticks around for another five years because the inevitable meltdown when his kids start smoking pot is going to be amazing.

Well, my son is only 3, so that seems pretty far-fetched.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

The one thing of value that has come from these threads is this:  I used to think that "prevention" was a good use of resources.  Now I understand that it's just another way of keeping CCA's pockets nice and full, because "prevention" is just "prohibition in a funny dress".  It's the Volstead Act rebranded.  Only this, and nothing more.

Yeah, it's just another avenue for getting cops into schools and sending "undesirables" to prison.

Anyone involved in "drug prevention" is a de facto racist, classist piece of shit.

Yep.  And the latter is patently obvious from RHWN's claim that HE isn't putting HIS kids at risk by making alcohol accessible, but OTHER people are.  And I think I can guess who those other people are.


Also, "MARIJUANA POISONING!"

He's a fart-sniffer... he can't look at or consider any information that comes from outside the "preventionist" (read: authoritarian punishment-freak) community.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I used to think you were a rational thinker immune to bullshit conspiracy theory talking points.

What makes THIS particularly funny is that I have based my change of thinking on RHWN's posts.

[AFK]

The one thing of value that has come from these threads is this:  I used to think that "prevention" was a good use of resources.  Now I understand that it's just another way of keeping CCA's pockets nice and full, because "prevention" is just "prohibition in a funny dress".  It's the Volstead Act rebranded.  Only this, and nothing more.

Yeah, it's just another avenue for getting cops into schools and sending "undesirables" to prison.

Anyone involved in "drug prevention" is a de facto racist, classist piece of shit.

Yep.  And the latter is patently obvious from RHWN's claim that HE isn't putting HIS kids at risk by making alcohol accessible, but OTHER people are.  And I think I can guess who those other people are.

I'm not, it isn't accessible in my home. 

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I do kind of hope he sticks around for another five years because the inevitable meltdown when his kids start smoking pot is going to be amazing.

Well, my son is only 3, so that seems pretty far-fetched.

The dead girl in the OP was only 2.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

The one thing of value that has come from these threads is this:  I used to think that "prevention" was a good use of resources.  Now I understand that it's just another way of keeping CCA's pockets nice and full, because "prevention" is just "prohibition in a funny dress".  It's the Volstead Act rebranded.  Only this, and nothing more.

Yeah, it's just another avenue for getting cops into schools and sending "undesirables" to prison.

Anyone involved in "drug prevention" is a de facto racist, classist piece of shit.

Yep.  And the latter is patently obvious from RHWN's claim that HE isn't putting HIS kids at risk by making alcohol accessible, but OTHER people are.  And I think I can guess who those other people are.

I'm not, it isn't accessible in my home.

Now you ARE lying.  You said, just a week ago or so, that you were having a beer at your house while your children were sleeping.