How We Protect At-Risk Kids.

[Doktor Howl]

Also, I don't imagine most substance abusers won't wait until after work to get fucked up.

That depends on how you define "abuse". Do you drink at work? Most pot smokers don't use pot at work. However they are still defined under the law as "drug abusers" simply because it's illegal.

Yes, I wouldn't hire RWHN.  He drinks, and it's only a matter of time before he'd come staggering in to work puking up shitty beer and killing someone in the parking lot.

[AFK]

So, basically, "diversion" means the kid (or adult) doesn't go to jail...YET.  The person simply cannot get a decent job ever again, which means poverty, which means prison.

How socially conscious.  How protective.

As I explained before, it's going to depend on the crime, and it varies state by state.

Yep.  And the ceiling for these kids will be, what, making fries?

If that's as far as they want to go, I guess.  I've known kids who've had trouble, including with the law, and have gone on to become drug counselors.  I've known adults who've done that.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

All other qualifications being equal between two candidates, I absolutely would want the person without the history of driving impaired. 


I mean, think about it, you hire the guy, he comes to work impaired, kills another employee with the forklift.  You think the family might scream for your head if they knew you hired a guy with that known history?

You do understand what the word never means right?

Do you understand the meaning of the word risk?

You mean a word that you totally didn't use?

Sorry, my mistake for assuming everyone understands a fairly basic business concept.

Well, sure, but what if the person has never driven impaired either, like what Dok said? You're making a bit of an assumption there.

Again, it's about the risk.  It isn't that they are assuming they WILL operate impaired, it's that one would be more likely to do so.  So it's lowering the risk, the potential.  When you are responsible for multiple employees, and the success of the business, you have to make these choices.

Anyone who's going to be that sort of risk will be found out pretty quickly one way or the other. You know, when they punch in smelling of booze. You're automatically going to the worst case scenario, and if they're that bad, previous employers will have already said " no comment."

[Doktor Howl]

If that's as far as they want to go, I guess.

"Sorry, we cannot accept your application because you have been in the system for drugs" = "not wanting the job."

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Also, I don't imagine most substance abusers won't wait until after work to get fucked up.

That depends on how you define "abuse". Do you drink at work? Most pot smokers don't use pot at work. However they are still defined under the law as "drug abusers" simply because it's illegal.

Only at rare office parties that have alcohol at them. I'm at work. If I want to get drunk instead, I'll punch out and go to the bar.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

So, basically, "diversion" means the kid (or adult) doesn't go to jail...YET.  The person simply cannot get a decent job ever again, which means poverty, which means prison.

How socially conscious.  How protective.

As I explained before, it's going to depend on the crime, and it varies state by state.

Yep.  And the ceiling for these kids will be, what, making fries?

If that's as far as they want to go, I guess.  I've known kids who've had trouble, including with the law, and have gone on to become drug counselors.  I've known adults who've done that.

Ah... I see now. It's a self-perpetuating machine.

[Doktor Howl]

So, basically, "diversion" means the kid (or adult) doesn't go to jail...YET.  The person simply cannot get a decent job ever again, which means poverty, which means prison.

How socially conscious.  How protective.

As I explained before, it's going to depend on the crime, and it varies state by state.

Yep.  And the ceiling for these kids will be, what, making fries?

If that's as far as they want to go, I guess.  I've known kids who've had trouble, including with the law, and have gone on to become drug counselors.  I've known adults who've done that.

Ah... I see now. It's a self-perpetuating machine.

Do you think he's on the pipe right now?

[Nephew Twiddleton]

So, basically, "diversion" means the kid (or adult) doesn't go to jail...YET.  The person simply cannot get a decent job ever again, which means poverty, which means prison.

How socially conscious.  How protective.

As I explained before, it's going to depend on the crime, and it varies state by state.

Yep.  And the ceiling for these kids will be, what, making fries?

If that's as far as they want to go, I guess.  I've known kids who've had trouble, including with the law, and have gone on to become drug counselors.  I've known adults who've done that.

Ah... I see now. It's a self-perpetuating machine.

Do you think he's on the pipe right now?

Nah, I think he's going for an unprecedented third coffee. Addictions have a tendency to make you want more than you should.

[East Coast Hustle]

I walk my talk.  Every damned day.  I got where I am through skill, yes intelligence, and hard work.  I haven't been randomly plucked from the populous to be put in the positions I have.  My reputation is one that I've built.  So much that I was offered a five-figure increase at a new job which I unfortunately had to decline because it would have created a commute that would have drastically reduced family time.  And among everything else, I'm a damned good father and always put my kiddos first.

THEY OFFERED ME A $10K RAISE BUT I SAID NO BECAUSE I WANT TO STAY CLOSE TO LEWISTON WHICH IS CLEARLY THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE AND A CITY KNOWN FOR PRODUCING IMPORTANT AND EXCEPTIONAL PEOPLE!

Cluephone ringing, bub.

[East Coast Hustle]

All other qualifications being equal between two candidates, I absolutely would want the person without the history of driving impaired. 


I mean, think about it, you hire the guy, he comes to work impaired, kills another employee with the forklift.  You think the family might scream for your head if they knew you hired a guy with that known history?

You do understand what the word never means right?

Do you understand the meaning of the word risk?

You mean a word that you totally didn't use?

Sorry, my mistake for assuming everyone understands a fairly basic business concept.

Well, sure, but what if the person has never driven impaired either, like what Dok said? You're making a bit of an assumption there.

Maybe all the substance abusers in Maine just happen to love driving under the influence and that's how they get sent to rehab. That's not a given everywhere though.

You have to. There's never a Dunkin Donuts within walking distance.

[East Coast Hustle]

So, basically, "diversion" means the kid (or adult) doesn't go to jail...YET.  The person simply cannot get a decent job ever again, which means poverty, which means prison.

How socially conscious.  How protective.

As I explained before, it's going to depend on the crime, and it varies state by state.

Yep.  And the ceiling for these kids will be, what, making fries?

If that's as far as they want to go, I guess.  I've known kids who've had trouble, including with the law, and have gone on to become drug counselors.  I've known adults who've done that.

Well THAT'S certainly a benchmark for success!

HEY, I USED TO BE A DRUG ADDICT BUT NOW I MAKE 28,000 A YEAR TO TELL OTHER DRUG ADDICTS HOW THEY TOO CAN STOP USING DRUGS AND GET A SHITTY DEPRESSING JOB THAT PAYS SQUAT AND HAS THE LOWEST JOB SATISFACTION RATING OF ANY CAREER! THANKS RWHN!

[Nephew Twiddleton]

All other qualifications being equal between two candidates, I absolutely would want the person without the history of driving impaired. 


I mean, think about it, you hire the guy, he comes to work impaired, kills another employee with the forklift.  You think the family might scream for your head if they knew you hired a guy with that known history?

You do understand what the word never means right?

Do you understand the meaning of the word risk?

You mean a word that you totally didn't use?

Sorry, my mistake for assuming everyone understands a fairly basic business concept.

Well, sure, but what if the person has never driven impaired either, like what Dok said? You're making a bit of an assumption there.

Maybe all the substance abusers in Maine just happen to love driving under the influence and that's how they get sent to rehab. That's not a given everywhere though.

You have to. There's never a Dunkin Donuts within walking distance.

[Telarus]

[Ben Shapiro]

All other qualifications being equal between two candidates, I absolutely would want the person without the history of driving impaired. 


I mean, think about it, you hire the guy, he comes to work impaired, kills another employee with the forklift.  You think the family might scream for your head if they knew you hired a guy with that known history?

You do understand what the word never means right?

Do you understand the meaning of the word risk?

Based on that, you should be fired because you drink beer now and again.

The risk is simply too high.

GOD DAMN IT ROGER YOU BEAT ME TO IT!

[Ben Shapiro]

So, basically, "diversion" means the kid (or adult) doesn't go to jail...YET.  The person simply cannot get a decent job ever again, which means poverty, which means prison.

How socially conscious.  How protective.

As I explained before, it's going to depend on the crime, and it varies state by state.

Yep.  And the ceiling for these kids will be, what, making fries freedom fries?

Remember, you're there forever!