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Started by Doktor Howl, August 09, 2013, 03:10:03 PM

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Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: The End on August 13, 2013, 05:15:17 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 13, 2013, 04:35:38 PM
You guys realize that you're basically giving RWHN a handjob, right?

That's what these threads are.  Handjobs for RWHN.


So is THAT what Dok was going for when he started it?


Ew.

You seemed to enjoy it regardless.
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TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS

AFK

I dunno, I feel kinda dirty now.  I need to go get some more coffee.
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Nephew Twiddleton

Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
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Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

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Q. G. Pennyworth

Quote from: The End on August 13, 2013, 05:14:08 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on August 13, 2013, 04:20:49 PM
Quote from: The End on August 13, 2013, 12:32:41 PM
That doesn't make any sense.  Alcohol is legal.  If in some magical universe it became illegal again I'd just stop using it, no big deal really. Marijuana should never be legalized.

Could I get you to elaborate on this point?


On which point?  You need to be more specific.

That tiny little nugget of content there seems like it contains most of the shit I don't understand about your logic. You cannot possibly be ignorant of the fact that alcohol is more addictive, more toxic, and leads to more aggressive and dangerous behaviors than pot. If you accept that alcohol can be used in moderation by adults in safe settings (which you do, because you drink in moderation yourself), then why is pot magically in another category simply because of legislation? If the law is the only determining factor in what you will and will not do (as you have implied by saying you would stop drinking entirely if it became illegal) why would pot still be evil if it were legalized? How can you sit there saying pot is bad and beer is okay in moderation when you have literally no science to back that up and tons of science that says clearly that alcohol is worse for you than an illegal substance that was most likely improperly categorized? It's not like we've never made mistakes before in categorizing things.

tyrannosaurus vex

Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on August 13, 2013, 05:29:08 PM
Quote from: The End on August 13, 2013, 05:14:08 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on August 13, 2013, 04:20:49 PM
Quote from: The End on August 13, 2013, 12:32:41 PM
That doesn't make any sense.  Alcohol is legal.  If in some magical universe it became illegal again I'd just stop using it, no big deal really. Marijuana should never be legalized.

Could I get you to elaborate on this point?


On which point?  You need to be more specific.

That tiny little nugget of content there seems like it contains most of the shit I don't understand about your logic. You cannot possibly be ignorant of the fact that alcohol is more addictive, more toxic, and leads to more aggressive and dangerous behaviors than pot. If you accept that alcohol can be used in moderation by adults in safe settings (which you do, because you drink in moderation yourself), then why is pot magically in another category simply because of legislation? If the law is the only determining factor in what you will and will not do (as you have implied by saying you would stop drinking entirely if it became illegal) why would pot still be evil if it were legalized? How can you sit there saying pot is bad and beer is okay in moderation when you have literally no science to back that up and tons of science that says clearly that alcohol is worse for you than an illegal substance that was most likely improperly categorized? It's not like we've never made mistakes before in categorizing things.

I was going to try to type out a sarcastic explanation of RWHN's "logic" here, but I realize now that it's futile to try. There's nothing I can say that would be more comically illogical or morally perverse than RWHN's actual position on the subject.
Evil and Unfeeling Arse-Flenser From The City of the Damned.

AFK

Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on August 13, 2013, 05:29:08 PM
Quote from: The End on August 13, 2013, 05:14:08 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on August 13, 2013, 04:20:49 PM
Quote from: The End on August 13, 2013, 12:32:41 PM
That doesn't make any sense.  Alcohol is legal.  If in some magical universe it became illegal again I'd just stop using it, no big deal really. Marijuana should never be legalized.

Could I get you to elaborate on this point?


On which point?  You need to be more specific.

That tiny little nugget of content there seems like it contains most of the shit I don't understand about your logic. You cannot possibly be ignorant of the fact that alcohol is more addictive, more toxic, and leads to more aggressive and dangerous behaviors than pot. If you accept that alcohol can be used in moderation by adults in safe settings (which you do, because you drink in moderation yourself), then why is pot magically in another category simply because of legislation? If the law is the only determining factor in what you will and will not do (as you have implied by saying you would stop drinking entirely if it became illegal) why would pot still be evil if it were legalized? How can you sit there saying pot is bad and beer is okay in moderation when you have literally no science to back that up and tons of science that says clearly that alcohol is worse for you than an illegal substance that was most likely improperly categorized? It's not like we've never made mistakes before in categorizing things.


Read the Principia Discordia again.  The answer lies within. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Q. G. Pennyworth

So, RWHN, next time I give you shit about not responding to me? This is why. You smarmy fuck.

Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: The End on August 13, 2013, 05:54:12 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on August 13, 2013, 05:29:08 PM
Quote from: The End on August 13, 2013, 05:14:08 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on August 13, 2013, 04:20:49 PM
Quote from: The End on August 13, 2013, 12:32:41 PM
That doesn't make any sense.  Alcohol is legal.  If in some magical universe it became illegal again I'd just stop using it, no big deal really. Marijuana should never be legalized.

Could I get you to elaborate on this point?


On which point?  You need to be more specific.

That tiny little nugget of content there seems like it contains most of the shit I don't understand about your logic. You cannot possibly be ignorant of the fact that alcohol is more addictive, more toxic, and leads to more aggressive and dangerous behaviors than pot. If you accept that alcohol can be used in moderation by adults in safe settings (which you do, because you drink in moderation yourself), then why is pot magically in another category simply because of legislation? If the law is the only determining factor in what you will and will not do (as you have implied by saying you would stop drinking entirely if it became illegal) why would pot still be evil if it were legalized? How can you sit there saying pot is bad and beer is okay in moderation when you have literally no science to back that up and tons of science that says clearly that alcohol is worse for you than an illegal substance that was most likely improperly categorized? It's not like we've never made mistakes before in categorizing things.


Read the Principia Discordia again.  The answer lies within.

In other words, "You got me there, but rather admit to it, go read this book that has nothing to do with the conversation at hand."

That's what this fucker does. Refuses to acknowledge questions as long as he can and then refuses to answer. Because he can't admit that he's just fucking wrong.
Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
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Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS

AFK

No, the answer is actually there.  Pages 49 and 50 might shed some light.
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: The End on August 13, 2013, 06:23:37 PM
No, the answer is actually there.  Pages 49 and 50 might shed some light.

You could just fucking tell us yourself.
Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
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Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS

AFK

Sorry, I have a speech to write and a retirement party to repare for.  Maybe tomorrow.
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Nephew Twiddleton

Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
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Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS

Junkenstein

P 49
Quote...spake the Bhudda "I'm a dull fucker, why do you people keep wasting my time"


P50
Quote... And the decree went forth that it was much more important to slap the village idiot than to bother with someone who is actually capable of communication

Shit, he's right this time.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Junkenstein on August 13, 2013, 07:18:10 PM
P 49
Quote...spake the Bhudda "I'm a dull fucker, why do you people keep wasting my time"


P50
Quote... And the decree went forth that it was much more important to slap the village idiot than to bother with someone who is actually capable of communication

Shit, he's right this time.

:lulz:
Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
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Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS

East Coast Hustle

Quote from: The End on August 13, 2013, 12:32:41 PM
Quote from: Aloha Ackbar on August 13, 2013, 12:24:04 AM
Well, he won't state whether or not he feels that alcohol should be banned, only that the lobbyists (rather than history) make that an unlikely scenario.

The word is impossible.  It's a non-starter, not even worth consideration for discussion.

QuoteBecause acknowledging that would force him to say that either his once a month beer night is illegal or conversely that marijuana should be legalized. His one, maybe two, coffee a day addiction might be lost in some legal limbo there.

That doesn't make any sense.  Alcohol is legal.  If in some magical universe it became illegal again I'd just stop using it, no big deal really. Marijuana should never be legalized.

So if your government decided to criminalize something that you enjoy responsibly you'd just be OK with that?

Wow, you're a real piece of work.
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Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"