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Started by Doktor Howl, August 09, 2013, 03:10:03 PM

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Anna Mae Bollocks

Quote from: Alty on August 14, 2013, 09:54:16 PM
Promise?

Huh, well, nevermind, imgur is not my friend today.

http://www.imgur.com/n5oZHhU.jpeg

That workin'?

Workin', yes.
Throw Nixon in there someplace and it'll be PERFECT.  :lol:
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Alty on August 14, 2013, 09:54:16 PM
Promise?

Huh, well, nevermind, imgur is not my friend today.

http://www.imgur.com/n5oZHhU.jpeg

That workin'?

Pretty much sums it up.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Salty

THREAD OVER, I WIN, STFU, ALL NIGELS.

ESPECIALLY YOU RWHNIGEL.
The world is a car and you're the crash test dummy.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Pergamos

Quote from: The End on August 14, 2013, 11:47:51 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on August 14, 2013, 11:13:12 AM
Quote from: The End on August 14, 2013, 12:57:26 AM
Quote from: Balls Wellington on August 13, 2013, 10:16:58 PM
Quote from: The End on August 13, 2013, 12:32:41 PM
Quote from: Aloha Ackbar on August 13, 2013, 12:24:04 AM
Well, he won't state whether or not he feels that alcohol should be banned, only that the lobbyists (rather than history) make that an unlikely scenario.

The word is impossible.  It's a non-starter, not even worth consideration for discussion.

QuoteBecause acknowledging that would force him to say that either his once a month beer night is illegal or conversely that marijuana should be legalized. His one, maybe two, coffee a day addiction might be lost in some legal limbo there.

That doesn't make any sense.  Alcohol is legal.  If in some magical universe it became illegal again I'd just stop using it, no big deal really. Marijuana should never be legalized.

So if your government decided to criminalize something that you enjoy responsibly you'd just be OK with that?

Wow, you're a real piece of work.

For me personally, alcohol wouldn't be worth a fight.  That doesn't mean I wouldn't fight he criminalization of other things.  Not drinking alcohol on the rare occassions that I do really wouldn't be a big deal.

Like coffee, presumably.

I have known kids who abused caffeine, in a much more abusey way than the coffee addict with bad kidneys who can't sleep right.  They'd chow no doze and get something similar to a speed buzz.  Some of them went overboard and experienced explosive diorhea, vomiting, and hallucinations, all at the same time.    The grounds to prohibit it are certainly more reasonable than marijuana if we are assuming that prohibition reduces use and we want to keep it away from kids.

I'm all in favor of banning the sales of energy drinks and other high-caffeine products to minors.

But if their parents can legally purchase them then they are still easily available.  You haven't really reduced access by much.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Pergamos on August 14, 2013, 11:22:54 PM
Quote from: The End on August 14, 2013, 11:47:51 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on August 14, 2013, 11:13:12 AM
Quote from: The End on August 14, 2013, 12:57:26 AM
Quote from: Balls Wellington on August 13, 2013, 10:16:58 PM
Quote from: The End on August 13, 2013, 12:32:41 PM
Quote from: Aloha Ackbar on August 13, 2013, 12:24:04 AM
Well, he won't state whether or not he feels that alcohol should be banned, only that the lobbyists (rather than history) make that an unlikely scenario.

The word is impossible.  It's a non-starter, not even worth consideration for discussion.

QuoteBecause acknowledging that would force him to say that either his once a month beer night is illegal or conversely that marijuana should be legalized. His one, maybe two, coffee a day addiction might be lost in some legal limbo there.

That doesn't make any sense.  Alcohol is legal.  If in some magical universe it became illegal again I'd just stop using it, no big deal really. Marijuana should never be legalized.

So if your government decided to criminalize something that you enjoy responsibly you'd just be OK with that?

Wow, you're a real piece of work.

For me personally, alcohol wouldn't be worth a fight.  That doesn't mean I wouldn't fight he criminalization of other things.  Not drinking alcohol on the rare occassions that I do really wouldn't be a big deal.

Like coffee, presumably.

I have known kids who abused caffeine, in a much more abusey way than the coffee addict with bad kidneys who can't sleep right.  They'd chow no doze and get something similar to a speed buzz.  Some of them went overboard and experienced explosive diorhea, vomiting, and hallucinations, all at the same time.    The grounds to prohibit it are certainly more reasonable than marijuana if we are assuming that prohibition reduces use and we want to keep it away from kids.

I'm all in favor of banning the sales of energy drinks and other high-caffeine products to minors.

But if their parents can legally purchase them then they are still easily available.  You haven't really reduced access by much.

There's really only one thing left to do. For the children.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


AFK

Quote from: Pergamos on August 14, 2013, 11:22:54 PM
Quote from: The End on August 14, 2013, 11:47:51 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on August 14, 2013, 11:13:12 AM
Quote from: The End on August 14, 2013, 12:57:26 AM
Quote from: Balls Wellington on August 13, 2013, 10:16:58 PM
Quote from: The End on August 13, 2013, 12:32:41 PM
Quote from: Aloha Ackbar on August 13, 2013, 12:24:04 AM
Well, he won't state whether or not he feels that alcohol should be banned, only that the lobbyists (rather than history) make that an unlikely scenario.

The word is impossible.  It's a non-starter, not even worth consideration for discussion.

QuoteBecause acknowledging that would force him to say that either his once a month beer night is illegal or conversely that marijuana should be legalized. His one, maybe two, coffee a day addiction might be lost in some legal limbo there.

That doesn't make any sense.  Alcohol is legal.  If in some magical universe it became illegal again I'd just stop using it, no big deal really. Marijuana should never be legalized.

So if your government decided to criminalize something that you enjoy responsibly you'd just be OK with that?

Wow, you're a real piece of work.

For me personally, alcohol wouldn't be worth a fight.  That doesn't mean I wouldn't fight he criminalization of other things.  Not drinking alcohol on the rare occassions that I do really wouldn't be a big deal.

Like coffee, presumably.

I have known kids who abused caffeine, in a much more abusey way than the coffee addict with bad kidneys who can't sleep right.  They'd chow no doze and get something similar to a speed buzz.  Some of them went overboard and experienced explosive diorhea, vomiting, and hallucinations, all at the same time.    The grounds to prohibit it are certainly more reasonable than marijuana if we are assuming that prohibition reduces use and we want to keep it away from kids.

I'm all in favor of banning the sales of energy drinks and other high-caffeine products to minors.

But if their parents can legally purchase them then they are still easily available.  You haven't really reduced access by much.

Hmm, you seem to be saying that when parents and adults purchase legal substances then it creates easy access for kids.  That is an interesting concept, it's almost like I've heard it before.  I think it was a rather dashing spag from here who might have put forth that concept.... Hmm.....
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: The End on August 15, 2013, 01:25:32 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on August 14, 2013, 11:22:54 PM
Quote from: The End on August 14, 2013, 11:47:51 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on August 14, 2013, 11:13:12 AM
Quote from: The End on August 14, 2013, 12:57:26 AM
Quote from: Balls Wellington on August 13, 2013, 10:16:58 PM
Quote from: The End on August 13, 2013, 12:32:41 PM
Quote from: Aloha Ackbar on August 13, 2013, 12:24:04 AM
Well, he won't state whether or not he feels that alcohol should be banned, only that the lobbyists (rather than history) make that an unlikely scenario.

The word is impossible.  It's a non-starter, not even worth consideration for discussion.

QuoteBecause acknowledging that would force him to say that either his once a month beer night is illegal or conversely that marijuana should be legalized. His one, maybe two, coffee a day addiction might be lost in some legal limbo there.

That doesn't make any sense.  Alcohol is legal.  If in some magical universe it became illegal again I'd just stop using it, no big deal really. Marijuana should never be legalized.

So if your government decided to criminalize something that you enjoy responsibly you'd just be OK with that?

Wow, you're a real piece of work.

For me personally, alcohol wouldn't be worth a fight.  That doesn't mean I wouldn't fight he criminalization of other things.  Not drinking alcohol on the rare occassions that I do really wouldn't be a big deal.

Like coffee, presumably.

I have known kids who abused caffeine, in a much more abusey way than the coffee addict with bad kidneys who can't sleep right.  They'd chow no doze and get something similar to a speed buzz.  Some of them went overboard and experienced explosive diorhea, vomiting, and hallucinations, all at the same time.    The grounds to prohibit it are certainly more reasonable than marijuana if we are assuming that prohibition reduces use and we want to keep it away from kids.

I'm all in favor of banning the sales of energy drinks and other high-caffeine products to minors.

But if their parents can legally purchase them then they are still easily available.  You haven't really reduced access by much.

Hmm, you seem to be saying that when parents and adults purchase legal substances then it creates easy access for kids.  That is an interesting concept, it's almost like I've heard it before.  I think it was a rather dashing spag from here who might have put forth that concept.... Hmm.....

Sooo...You want your children to be alcoholics.

How nice.   :lulz:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

AFK

Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: The End on August 15, 2013, 01:40:31 AM
Look at TGRR dodge and weave.

No, you make alcohol more accessible to them.

You want your children to be drunks.

You are a bad father.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

AFK

Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

The Good Reverend Roger

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Somehow, RWHN doesn't believe he should be held to his own standard.

I wonder why that is?  What makes HIM different?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 15, 2013, 01:52:37 AM
Somehow, RWHN doesn't believe he should be held to his own standard.

I wonder why that is?  What makes HIM different?

He's a Decision-Makerâ„¢.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR GENITALS on August 15, 2013, 01:54:58 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 15, 2013, 01:52:37 AM
Somehow, RWHN doesn't believe he should be held to his own standard.

I wonder why that is?  What makes HIM different?

He's a Decision-Makerâ„¢.

Nooooo...that's not it...

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.