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Started by Cuddlefish, August 27, 2013, 04:55:05 PM

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Cuddlefish on September 06, 2013, 11:45:13 PM
Quote from: Facemeat on September 05, 2013, 03:11:56 AM
I'm sorry I never went over my copy. I thought at the time that I was going to be home all weekend while ALL MY FRIENDS were at the boast, but then I went too.

If all of your friends decided to drop out of school and become juggalos, would you do that too?

Wait... Don't answer that...  :wink:

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Cuddlefish

Some feedback has trickled in, but it seems like it has mostly halted at this point.

There are a couple of people that I'd like to hear back from (*coughnigel, *ahemlmno) but I think that, at this point, it would be prudent to end this phase by this coming weekend. That way, I can take a week to implement any changes deemed necessary, and we can move on to organizing the release details.

Anyone who is still looking through it: don't see this as a means to rush through the whole thing haphazardly. I'll take whatever feedback you have on anything you've had the chance to look over by Sunday.

A fisher of men, or a manner of fish?

Cuddlefish

Alright, I haven't gotten anything else back to me since my last post, so I think I'm probably gonna call it here.

I would have liked to have gotten a bit more feedback, but I think it's time to get this moving forward.

That said, I won't likely get to the final re-scan until later on in the week, so if, in the meantime, anyone finds anything that needs addressing, there's technically a little bit of time left to let me know.


A fisher of men, or a manner of fish?

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

I'm sorry, I thought I had explained that the one weekend of my life when I actually thought I was going to have free time, I ended up going to the coast, which was a blast and a half. Otherwise I am trying to raise four children and keep my house from falling apart, sorry I couldn't be available for you.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Sorry, I shouldn't be snarky about it. When you posted on the 10th I was still stressing about my poster presentation, which was on the 12th, and I thought that you had needed feedback far earlier than that so I just pretty much ignored it as it was a demand on time I didn't have to give. If you still want feedback I'll look at it today, but for fuck's sale please cut the passive-aggressive crap, and just ask me if I have time. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't, but my life is not like that of a childless or married person. Even during break I work ALL THE TIME to keep kids fed, house cleaned, mortgage paid, etc. and I don't have "free time" per se, I just have "time where I have no high-priority matters need to be taken care of and I can put off lower-priority matters for a while".

It amazes me, sometimes, how married people and people without kids think about time. I think it must be somewhat like people from the NW think about water; it's just everywhere, we take it for granted. I am Tucson, and time is my water. What do you mean, you just have it lying around free? That makes no sense! What is that even like?

Every minute I spend on this board is a minute I probably should be doing something else, something that would make me and my children's lives better. FYI.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Cuddlefish

Quote from: What The Fox Say on September 15, 2013, 05:44:09 PM
I'm sorry, I thought I had explained that the one weekend of my life when I actually thought I was going to have free time, I ended up going to the coast, which was a blast and a half. Otherwise I am trying to raise four children and keep my house from falling apart, sorry I couldn't be available for you.

It's no problem, I hope you didn't think that last post was directed specifically at you. There are a handful of copies out, and I was trying to address everyone who has one as a group.

I did specifically call you and LMNO by name a few posts back, but it was meant to be more silly than anything else.

The LAST thing I want to do is put undo stress on people, sorry if it came across like that. It's difficult trying to figure out a how to play an 'administrative' role on a Discordian project  :oops: It's a little... counter-intuitive.
A fisher of men, or a manner of fish?

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Cuddlefish on September 15, 2013, 06:02:30 PM
Quote from: What The Fox Say on September 15, 2013, 05:44:09 PM
I'm sorry, I thought I had explained that the one weekend of my life when I actually thought I was going to have free time, I ended up going to the coast, which was a blast and a half. Otherwise I am trying to raise four children and keep my house from falling apart, sorry I couldn't be available for you.

It's no problem, I hope you didn't think that last post was directed specifically at you. There are a handful of copies out, and I was trying to address everyone who has one as a group.

I did specifically call you and LMNO by name a few posts back, but it was meant to be more silly than anything else.

The LAST thing I want to do is put undo stress on people, sorry if it came across like that. It's difficult trying to figure out a how to play an 'administrative' role on a Discordian project  :oops: It's a little... counter-intuitive.

Apology accepted, I'm sorry for reacting so strongly. I did take the last post that way, primarily because of the post before it. I do, actually, have time today; I was planning on doing housework and running the dog but if you really need feedback I can take a look at it this afternoon, provided nothing comes up.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Cuddlefish

Quote from: What The Fox Say on September 15, 2013, 06:08:24 PM
Quote from: Cuddlefish on September 15, 2013, 06:02:30 PM
Quote from: What The Fox Say on September 15, 2013, 05:44:09 PM
I'm sorry, I thought I had explained that the one weekend of my life when I actually thought I was going to have free time, I ended up going to the coast, which was a blast and a half. Otherwise I am trying to raise four children and keep my house from falling apart, sorry I couldn't be available for you.

It's no problem, I hope you didn't think that last post was directed specifically at you. There are a handful of copies out, and I was trying to address everyone who has one as a group.

I did specifically call you and LMNO by name a few posts back, but it was meant to be more silly than anything else.

The LAST thing I want to do is put undo stress on people, sorry if it came across like that. It's difficult trying to figure out a how to play an 'administrative' role on a Discordian project  :oops: It's a little... counter-intuitive.

Apology accepted, I'm sorry for reacting so strongly. I did take the last post that way, primarily because of the post before it. I do, actually, have time today; I was planning on doing housework and running the dog but if you really need feedback I can take a look at it this afternoon, provided nothing comes up.

It's all cool. If you (or anyone else, for that matter) do manage to find a chance, start at the end and go backward. I have gotten little to nothing about the last third of the book.

Tangentially, I get the time thing. I may not be married or have kids, but I know quite a few people in my day-to-day who don't take other people's time seriously, disregard other people's time entirely, or just, in a general way, have no sense of time. I am not one of those people. Honestly, commuting to school by bus as a full time student is a time destroyer for me. So, if anything, I can only imagine how having kids etc. would take it's toll. If anything, I mean to ACKNOWLEDGE this, because I know what it is like for people who don't respect my (lack of) time to NOT acknowledge that MY TIME IS VALUABLE.

It is frustrating dealing with people like that, and I did NOT MEAN to come across like that.
A fisher of men, or a manner of fish?

Cuddlefish

Plus, I'm a bit of a 'try-hard' or 'over-achiever,' and I tend to internalize or personalize the projects I work on. So, when 'dead-lines' (however self-imposed) approach and I don't feel the project has endured the proper level of scrutiny and attention, I tend to get nervous or unsettled in a psychological/emotional sort of way. When working on something alone, this is usually helpful, but I see how it could easily have an effect on the tone of my posts, and I should probably be a little more aware of it when working with others. 
A fisher of men, or a manner of fish?

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Thanks, Dimo. :) If my power doesn't get knocked out by this storm that's looming, I'll look at the last third, at least.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Cuddlefish

Quote from: What The Fox Say on September 15, 2013, 07:33:31 PM
Thanks, Dimo. :) If my power doesn't get knocked out by this storm that's looming, I'll look at the last third, at least.

Coolio. I'd say 'may Eris  be with you,' but that might be counter-productive at this point  :fnord:
A fisher of men, or a manner of fish?

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Cuddlefish on September 15, 2013, 07:40:34 PM
Quote from: What The Fox Say on September 15, 2013, 07:33:31 PM
Thanks, Dimo. :) If my power doesn't get knocked out by this storm that's looming, I'll look at the last third, at least.

Coolio. I'd say 'may Eris  be with you,' but that might be counter-productive at this point  :fnord:

:lulz: I was just being disappointed because it rained a little and then stopped, but then I heard the loudest thunderclap I've ever heard in my life so apparently it isn't over yet.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

OK so I'm at page 38 and I have one very important question, without the answer to which I can't really continue: what is the planned publication size? Is this going to be magazine size, or paperback side?
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Cuddlefish

Quote from: What The Fox Say on September 15, 2013, 09:53:11 PM
OK so I'm at page 38 and I have one very important question, without the answer to which I can't really continue: what is the planned publication size? Is this going to be magazine size, or paperback side?

Heya, that's an important question. I've gotten back to you via alternate means by the time I saw this, but in case anyone else was wondering, I was shooting for a graphic novel/comic book size. Something about being able to sleeve this up in a comic bag seemed appealing to me, plus anything smaller would likely be too small.
A fisher of men, or a manner of fish?

Cuddlefish

Although, after reviewing some of the feedback, I think we're looking at magazine size. Some of the font-size issues may be unfixable. I'm going to try printing up some of the 'trouble pages' at graphic novel size, just in case. But in the end, I think larger will be better. Then again, we could potentially release it in different sizes... I dunno, I guess we'll see.
A fisher of men, or a manner of fish?