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On Special Snowflake-ism, part III: The Smartest Guy In The Room

Started by The Good Reverend Roger, August 27, 2013, 06:51:11 PM

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#15
August 28, 2013, 01:46:17 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 28, 2013, 01:00:35 AM
Quote from: NEVER FEAR LOVE! on August 28, 2013, 12:17:37 AM
The thing is, in many, if not most, group endeavours, organizations, fields, or projects...

The overall group WANTS to identify the smartest guy in the room.  They will be hapless and scared without one.  And one WILL be identified and crowned, willingly or not.

The evidence for my POV has been provided.  Thanks, RWHN!   :lulz:

Tell me why I'm wrong.
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

The Good Reverend Roger

#16
August 28, 2013, 01:51:37 AM
Quote from: NEVER FEAR LOVE! on August 28, 2013, 01:46:17 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 28, 2013, 01:00:35 AM
Quote from: NEVER FEAR LOVE! on August 28, 2013, 12:17:37 AM
The thing is, in many, if not most, group endeavours, organizations, fields, or projects...

The overall group WANTS to identify the smartest guy in the room.  They will be hapless and scared without one.  And one WILL be identified and crowned, willingly or not.

The evidence for my POV has been provided.  Thanks, RWHN!   :lulz:

Tell me why I'm wrong.

Because you're so narcissistic that you no longer believe anyone has any volition?   :lulz:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

AFK

#17
August 28, 2013, 01:53:31 AM
People have volition but they will still want to find the natural leader in any group process. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

The Good Reverend Roger

#18
August 28, 2013, 01:54:01 AM
Quote from: NEVER FEAR LOVE! on August 28, 2013, 01:53:31 AM
People have volition but they will still want to find the natural leader in any group process.

Which is, naturally, you.

:lulz:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

AFK

#19
August 28, 2013, 01:56:40 AM
Argue the point instead of making the thread about me.  Tell me how I'm wrong.
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

The Good Reverend Roger

#20
August 28, 2013, 01:59:20 AM
 :lulz:

Funny thing is, RWHN, I wrote the OP with you in mind.

And you have delivered.  Thanks.

:lulz:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#21
August 28, 2013, 01:59:35 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 28, 2013, 01:34:47 AM
Quote from: Surprise Happy Endings Whether You Want Them Or Not on August 28, 2013, 01:28:05 AM
Quote from: NEVER FEAR LOVE! on August 28, 2013, 12:17:37 AM
The thing is, in many, if not most, group endeavours, organizations, fields, or projects...

The overall group WANTS to identify the smartest guy in the room.  They will be hapless and scared without one.  And one WILL be identified and crowned, willingly or not.

http://psychcentral.com/quizzes/narcissistic.htm

I scored a 14, being as honest as I could.

12 here, which actually surprised me quite a bit.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

Richter

#22
August 28, 2013, 02:08:29 AM
I got a 2 - but went into the test considering narcissism an undesirable trait.  Pre-loaded bias and easily discernible grading system.

IMHO - If you're the smartest person in the room SHUT UP.  Announcing it will set the others on the guard against you.  IT will enver work if they start asking why they are handing you their money.
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on May 22, 2015, 03:00:53 AM
Anyone ever think about how Richter inhabits the same reality as you and just scream and scream and scream, but in a good way?   :lulz:

Friendly Neighborhood Mentat

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#23
August 28, 2013, 02:12:55 AM
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

Pæs

#24
August 28, 2013, 02:20:40 AM
Quote from: NEVER FEAR LOVE! on August 28, 2013, 01:53:31 AM
People have volition but they will still want to find the natural leader in any group process.
They actually WANT to be dominated.
//

The Good Reverend Roger

#25
August 28, 2013, 02:53:15 AM
Quote from: Pæs on August 28, 2013, 02:20:40 AM
Quote from: NEVER FEAR LOVE! on August 28, 2013, 01:53:31 AM
People have volition but they will still want to find the natural leader in any group process.
They actually WANT to be dominated.
//


This has been both hilarious and cringetastic.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

AFK

#26
August 28, 2013, 03:21:59 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 28, 2013, 01:59:20 AM

Funny thing is, RWHN, I wrote the OP with you in mind.


No kidding.  It wasn't exactly subtle.  Well the intent, but of course you are off the mark. 


People do tend to see me as a natural leader in many situations.  But I like to help people.  I'm not really concerned about being perceived as the smartest guy in the room.  I just want to be perceived as helpful and as a reliable resource.  And other times I actualky get a little annoyed when people insist on anointing me as the leader of a thing when I'd rather someone else take the reigns.  People have volition but sometimes groups can cause laziness too.
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

The Good Reverend Roger

#27
August 28, 2013, 03:23:22 AM
Quote from: NEVER FEAR LOVE! on August 28, 2013, 03:21:59 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 28, 2013, 01:59:20 AM

Funny thing is, RWHN, I wrote the OP with you in mind.


No kidding.  It wasn't exactly subtle.  Well the intent, but of course you are off the mark. 


No, RWHN, I was dead on the fucking money.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

AFK

#28
August 28, 2013, 04:01:00 AM
You really know very little about me so you really can't say that with any authority.
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

tyrannosaurus vex

#29
August 28, 2013, 04:46:39 AM
Quote from: NEVER FEAR LOVE! on August 28, 2013, 01:46:17 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 28, 2013, 01:00:35 AM
Quote from: NEVER FEAR LOVE! on August 28, 2013, 12:17:37 AM
The thing is, in many, if not most, group endeavours, organizations, fields, or projects...

The overall group WANTS to identify the smartest guy in the room.  They will be hapless and scared without one.  And one WILL be identified and crowned, willingly or not.

The evidence for my POV has been provided.  Thanks, RWHN!   :lulz:

Tell me why I'm wrong.

Ugh. Well, first, the Smartest Guy in the Room is rarely (if ever) actually the smartest guy (or gal) in the room. That he or those around him may be unaware of this only adds to the problem.

Second, the Smartest Guy in the Room will immediately steer any conversation about something he is unfamiliar with into a conversation about something he is passingly familiar with (for some reason, the SGitR has an enormous lack of any actual expertise on almost everything) just so he can claim the heavyweight title and go back into his to intellectual coma as quickly as possible.

Third, both of these traits describe you to a T.

Fourth, stop mangling threads that were doing just fine without you.
Evil and Unfeeling Arse-Flenser From The City of the Damned.
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