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Why Dirty Old Uncle Roger Opposes Drug Use and Shut Up.

Started by The Good Reverend Roger, September 16, 2013, 07:44:57 PM

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Lord Cataplanga

Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 19, 2013, 07:02:22 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on September 19, 2013, 06:48:13 PM
MAKING porn as a hobby, on the other hand...

And then we can staple, "HI!  I'M A COMMODITY!" to our faces, and go running off into the future!

You can REMIX porn made by others, if making it yourself makes you uncomfortable.
Don't distribute the results, though. That would be against intellectual property laws, not to mention the laws of decency.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Lord Cataplanga on September 19, 2013, 07:04:57 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 19, 2013, 07:02:22 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on September 19, 2013, 06:48:13 PM
MAKING porn as a hobby, on the other hand...

And then we can staple, "HI!  I'M A COMMODITY!" to our faces, and go running off into the future!

You can REMIX porn made by others, if making it yourself makes you uncomfortable.
Don't distribute the results, though. That would be against intellectual property laws, not to mention the laws of decency.

HI!  I'M HELPING MAKE OTHER PEOPLE A COMMODITY!
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Q. G. Pennyworth

Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 19, 2013, 07:02:22 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on September 19, 2013, 06:48:13 PM
MAKING porn as a hobby, on the other hand...

And then we can staple, "HI!  I'M A COMMODITY!" to our faces, and go running off into the future!

Even for drawporn? Proseporn?

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

I agree with most of the comments made. Drugs can be bad, drugs can screw you over on hobbies, free time, friends etc. It doesn't always, but I've come to think that my experiences must not be normal. I've begun to wonder if its because I didn't do any drugs until I was 23 or 24 (except alcohol in moderation). Even so, I've never done drugs without research and careful monitoring. I would never tell people that the should do drugs, just because I can't really identify why my experience has been so different.

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Pergamos

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on September 19, 2013, 03:50:26 PM
Now, that just doesn't seem fair.  First, it's dependency if it takes the place of other activities.

Then, it's dependency even if it doesn't take the place of other activities.

It has to take the place of other activities.  That other activity might be sitting on the couch staring into space, or picking your nose, or whatever, but you are always doing something.

Pergamos

Quote from: Lord Cataplanga on September 19, 2013, 06:12:19 PM
I particularly liked McGrupp's emphasis on the cost of drug use being fundamentally an oportunity cost. That is, drugs themselves aren't bad, but there are so many better things you could be doing with your time.

You could say that same thing about many hobbies, though, unless your hobby is fighting crime or something.

The difference I find is that the sort of people that are willing to listen to me talk about mushroom hunting (the tasty kind, not the get you high kind) or LARPing or the latest indie videogame I discovered or whatever are usually more fun to be around (and less likely to steal my shit when I am not looking) than the people who are willing to listen to me talk about the drugs I took.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on September 19, 2013, 08:04:15 PM
I agree with most of the comments made. Drugs can be bad, drugs can screw you over on hobbies, free time, friends etc. It doesn't always, but I've come to think that my experiences must not be normal. I've begun to wonder if its because I didn't do any drugs until I was 23 or 24 (except alcohol in moderation). Even so, I've never done drugs without research and careful monitoring. I would never tell people that the should do drugs, just because I can't really identify why my experience has been so different.

No, actually, I think that lots of people do drugs occasionally-to-regularly for fun with no adverse effects. In fact, I know for certain that most people do.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Pergamos on September 19, 2013, 08:08:05 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on September 19, 2013, 03:50:26 PM
Now, that just doesn't seem fair.  First, it's dependency if it takes the place of other activities.

Then, it's dependency even if it doesn't take the place of other activities.

It has to take the place of other activities.  That other activity might be sitting on the couch staring into space, or picking your nose, or whatever, but you are always doing something.

There are a great many activities which you can do while under the influence of drugs. People do them every day.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Q. G. Pennyworth

Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 19, 2013, 11:21:51 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on September 19, 2013, 08:00:00 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 19, 2013, 07:02:22 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on September 19, 2013, 06:48:13 PM
MAKING porn as a hobby, on the other hand...

And then we can staple, "HI!  I'M A COMMODITY!" to our faces, and go running off into the future!

Even for drawporn? Proseporn?

ie. drawing and writing?

Specific applications thereof, yes. There are folks who would not engage in creative activities (or not as often) if the end result wasn't fappable.

AFK

Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 19, 2013, 11:22:59 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on September 19, 2013, 08:04:15 PM
I agree with most of the comments made. Drugs can be bad, drugs can screw you over on hobbies, free time, friends etc. It doesn't always, but I've come to think that my experiences must not be normal. I've begun to wonder if its because I didn't do any drugs until I was 23 or 24 (except alcohol in moderation). Even so, I've never done drugs without research and careful monitoring. I would never tell people that the should do drugs, just because I can't really identify why my experience has been so different.

No, actually, I think that lots of people do drugs occasionally-to-regularly for fun with no adverse effects. In fact, I know for certain that most people do.

How do you know this "for certain"?
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Be Kind, Please RWHNd on September 19, 2013, 11:38:49 PM
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 19, 2013, 11:22:59 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on September 19, 2013, 08:04:15 PM
I agree with most of the comments made. Drugs can be bad, drugs can screw you over on hobbies, free time, friends etc. It doesn't always, but I've come to think that my experiences must not be normal. I've begun to wonder if its because I didn't do any drugs until I was 23 or 24 (except alcohol in moderation). Even so, I've never done drugs without research and careful monitoring. I would never tell people that the should do drugs, just because I can't really identify why my experience has been so different.

No, actually, I think that lots of people do drugs occasionally-to-regularly for fun with no adverse effects. In fact, I know for certain that most people do.

How do you know this "for certain"?

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/AboutFDA/CentersOffices/OfficeofFoods/CFSAN/CFSANFOIAElectronicReadingRoom/UCM333191.pdf
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


AFK

Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


AFK

Cynicism is a blank check for failure.