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Started by Demolition Squid, September 30, 2013, 01:19:04 PM

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Demolition Squid

So hay PD.com.

Last time I touched base, I was being hunted by trams in Amsterdam. I then disappeared for a long time. I thought I'd pop my head back in to see what was going on with you spags, and let you guys know what was up with me. Be warned that this is incredibly spammy and self-indulgent, all about my life and woes... but hey, it felt good to write it all down, anyway. Maybe some of you will get a kick out of it!

Amsterdam was horrible. I went over for a conference, and it was nothing at all like I was hoping for. I wanted to discuss the subjects and engage with the material... almost nobody else there was interested in talking about anything other than their own research and sometimes not even that. Highlights included the woman who loudly and repeatedly asserted that all issues and subjects were fundamentally expressions of the repression of communist urges in western society since the collapse of the USSR, to the fact that the panel I was invited to speak on was originally billed to have four speakers. I was the only one there on time, one more turned up ten minutes late, and another forty minutes into the one hour talk. The fourth never appeared. Greatly disappointed, I skipped back home a day early.

When I got back, I was informed I no longer had a job. As I was working on a 'freelance' basis, I wasn't entitled to any notice period. I'd spent all my savings getting to and back from Amsterdam, and so, without any other options, I moved back in with my parents. I hoped at the time that I'd be able to jump back into work pretty quickly. The last time I was out of work, I didn't have any experience. This time, I'd worked for 13 months, I had a great letter of recommendation (my immediate boss thought I was awesome, and was actually in tears when she said she had to let me go... which was weird. Despite how shit it was for me, she took it harder than I did!) I didn't think it was going to take long to find another position.

Six months later, and I'm seriously depressed. I managed to have four interviews. The first literally never told me why they didn't want to hire me, never responded to my email or phone message inquiring why - I can only presume I did something so traumatically horrible in the interview they repressed all memory of me. The second said they felt I was overqualified. The third asked me to dance, and I refused - they said they were hiring another person who had demonstrated more 'commitment' to the company. I didn't realize that the funky chicken dance was such an important part of the modern office environment.

The most depressing one was when I decided to start going back for internships. I felt worthless, and I was willing to do anything by this stage just to get out of the house. I interviewed for an internship position with a major London marketing firm. I knocked it out of the fucking park at interview. It was less than minimum wage to start, but with a quick boost to generous levels that would let me move back out of home. The interviewers were both impressed with me, I was even introduced to the COO and head of human resources before I left. We talked for three hours, when it was supposed to be an hour long interview - I felt pretty confident I was going to get it.

Weeks passed with no response. I emailed them back, and they apologized for taking so long to get back to me. There was a far more experienced candidate, who had actually done the full time, fully paid role that the internship would progress to after a year, for six years. He was happy to start at the bottom and work his way up again. They complimented my intelligence, said that I clearly had a head that would be great in the marketing space, and wished me luck.

I was crushed. Honestly, I didn't want to do marketing anyway; it seemed like a horrible way to use my talents, but I did want to get paid and be my own person. It was the nicest possible rejection they could have given me... but how the hell can I compete for entry level jobs against people like that?

In the background on this, I'd been vastly increasing the amount of time I spent playing online roleplaying games. I was a huge fan of text-based roleplaying, where players essentially do collaborative writing to tell stories. I have been in these communities for about eight years, and when I was at university or working, that wasn't a problem. Without something else in my life, though, I began dedicating twelve, fourteen hours a day to the games. One of my closest friends IRL suffered a mental breakdown after being hit by a car (and reversed over, shattering his leg). Another couple had a baby. Another moved across the country. Days would pass where the only contact I had with another human being was through the game... and I began to prioritize my 'game' friends over my real life. The game had never let me down, it was always there to distract me. Its disturbing looking back on it, but at the same time, I am thankful I had something. I honestly don't know what I would have done, stuck in a tiny village with no money (jobseekers allowance was being used to pay off the various debts I'd managed to accrue), and nobody to talk to.

About four months ago, though, I heard about a seminar. 'How to Write for the BBC' or words to that effect. It was free, and my dad offered to take me there. I went, and it was genuinely inspiring. Not just because the man who gave the talk was great, but because of how much what he said I already knew. I've always dabbled in writing, and with the amount of roleplaying I'd done, I already 'got' everything he was talking about in story structure, dialogue use, and tone. What I didn't know about was the format used and how to break into that world. I've always dreamed of being a 'real' writer, but until I heard this guy talk, I never believed it was a realistic goal to set for myself.

On the way back from the seminar, I ranted and raved about everything we'd discussed. I'd taken pages of notes. My dad said it was the first time he'd ever really seen me really passionate about something that wasn't political. I'm not a very excitable person, really, but I was excited. Really, truly. It felt as though someone had given me permission to do what I wanted with my life.

I never wanted to be one of those people who is perpetually 'writing a screenplay' or 'working on a novel'. I was so terrified of being labelled a social dropout that, ironically, I became a social dropout. My self esteem had taken such a huge beating over the long period of unemployment and my consistent inability to find anything to apply my degree to that I was leaning hard on this game community (where I was considered awesome for my ability to string two sentences together), and refusing to do anything else.

We talked a lot about where to go from here. My parents wanted to support me (and I am hugely grateful to them for that), and I managed to get part time work at a supermarket cafe. There are weeks where I earn less money now than I would if I was doing literally nothing and continuing to claim jobseekers allowance, but it feels fantastic to be working again, even if it is only part time. In the four months since I decided to try and make a go of it as a writer, I've finished three short pieces, almost finished two longer pieces, and sent sketches in to the BBC. There's a surprising amount of opportunities out there, and even though the feedback has largely been 'this is good but not quite good enough' so far, I feel like I'm on the right track. Another competition comes up in two weeks, and I've got a piece read for that, too. The BBC accepts submissions three times per year through their 'writers room' project, which should hopefully be opening again soon. That's what I'm working on at the moment, trying to finish up my first piece longer than 20-30 minutes so I can submit it. I've no illusions that I'm going to get selected first time, or even get feedback; they estimate they give a proper critique to 1/1000 entrants, and then take forward 1/10 of those who respond to the critique. But I feel like I've got direction, and I'm enjoying what I'm doing.

Last week, I also finally stepped away from the world of online gaming for good. It hasn't been easy; being a part of that community has felt like a major part of my identity since before I was really an adult. But, I realized that it no longer felt like fun. It felt like an obligation, and it was cutting into time I would rather spend with my friends IRL or working on my writing projects. My buddy has recovered from his breakdown, and is back out and about. My two friends with the baby now want to try and get together once every week-two weeks to help them stay sane (and the baby is freaking adorable. She's called Eris, by the way. That made me laugh). I've started doing face to face tabletop roleplaying once a week with these guys and a few other friends I haven't given enough time to over the past year... and I don't feel like I need to supplement that with even more distractions.

But PD.com has also been a large part of my life, and I don't consider you guys distractions. The truth is, after moving back in with my parents, it felt embarrassing to admit that I'd taken a step backwards in my life. No job, no girlfriend, no home, no prospects ... and maybe it is still a little embarrassing that I have to rely on my family right now. But I feel hopeful about the future, and even if it doesn't work out, at least I feel like I'm making positive progress, now. I'm not just stagnating, and I'm not relying on someone else to give me work; I'm producing what I want to produce, and that's a great feeling.
Vast and Roaring Nipplebeast from the Dawn of Soho

Pæs

Hey man! I'm glad you're back. Sounds like you've been keeping pretty busy in a sometimes-not-actually-busy kind of a way. Had a eventful time since last you were here, at least.

Shit sounds like it was rough but it's good to hear that you're changing shit up. I've been in a remarkably similar place to that you describe, job fell over, moved back in with parents, RL started to fail which lead to an accidental escapism into roleplaying (helped by there being some genuinely awesome people in those communities), leading to less time for RL. My place was building and living in virtual worlds in Second Life, fleshing out full histories for them and using those as a platform for the same kind of collaborative storytelling you're talking about. It's fucking attractive having a bunch of internet people who'll tell you you're a badass without too much provocation.

Sounds like you're already onto what I would consider the biggest part of making positive change, which is the simple-in-hindsight "stop doing what you're doing and do something else". I found that getting out and experiencing a variety of different scenes and people lead to my being able to make connections between those new things I was doing and using that to turn both new and old contacts of mine into job opportunities. It's that whole Black Swan thing, where any given situation has a small chance of being massively life altering and the best way to massively alter your life is to just go hunting for new situations.

Good luck with the writing. PD's always a good place to just throw words together and see how people react which can be helpful if you're working on that. WALCOM BACK. SUBMIT UPDATED FACE TO SPAGBOOK TO COMPLETE RE-REGISTRATION TO PD.

Reginald Ret

Hey Demo Squid, I'm glad to have you back and glad to hear you are hopeful.
I would love to read your writing.
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Demolition Squid

Thanks guys!

I'm a little uncertain about putting stuff I intend to enter into competitions and similar up online. If you drop me a PM with a preferred email address, though, I'd love to hear more thoughts.  :)
Vast and Roaring Nipplebeast from the Dawn of Soho

Pope Pixie Pickle

good to see that you have some kind of groove back. these are hard times for many people and it can really kick you in the nads.

Good to see you around!

Cramulus

welcome back, doodle squid!

sorry to hear about the bad stuff, but it's good to hear you're signing yourself out of the prison

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Demolition Squid on September 30, 2013, 01:19:04 PM
The third asked me to dance, and I refused - they said they were hiring another person who had demonstrated more 'commitment' to the company. I didn't realize that the funky chicken dance was such an important part of the modern office environment.

1.  Be glad you didn't get THAT job.  They were advertizing for someone with NO self-esteem.  What they would have done to you had you gotten the job doesn't bear description.

2.  You are not your profession.  Parents are there to help their kids.  It's not like you're a wii drone, planning and expecting to live with them forever.  Take a breath, get your shit together, and RELAX.  Interviewers can smell panic.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
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"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Demolition Squid

Thanks guys!

And... yeah. On the dancing thing, that's pretty much exactly what I figured. There's a lot of companies around taking advantage of the financial situation to grab desperate people they can chew up and spit out. Well, I guess there's always been companies like that, but I've heard a lot more horror stories recently.
Vast and Roaring Nipplebeast from the Dawn of Soho

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Welcome back, D-Squid! I'm sorry you've had such a rough go, but glad to hear that things are starting to look up for you!
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Demolition Squid

Thanks Nigel!

My mum absolutely adores the beads you made for her, and I've kept one of those [redacted] cards in my wallet. You know, just in case.
Vast and Roaring Nipplebeast from the Dawn of Soho

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Demolition Squid on September 30, 2013, 05:34:16 PM
Thanks guys!

And... yeah. On the dancing thing, that's pretty much exactly what I figured. There's a lot of companies around taking advantage of the financial situation to grab desperate people they can chew up and spit out. Well, I guess there's always been companies like that, but I've heard a lot more horror stories recently.

Think about it...They're literally saying "dance for a paycheck, monkey".  I wonder how they treat the employees that are already in their clutches?  I mean "do the funky chicken to show commitment" is about as unprofessional as it gets.

Keep looking, try to stop stressing.  You have your parent's support.  That's more than many people get.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Demolition Squid on September 30, 2013, 06:10:02 PM
Thanks Nigel!

My mum absolutely adores the beads you made for her, and I've kept one of those [redacted] cards in my wallet. You know, just in case.

:lulz: Excellent!
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Pæs

Quote from: Demolition Squid on September 30, 2013, 05:34:16 PM
Thanks guys!

And... yeah. On the dancing thing, that's pretty much exactly what I figured. There's a lot of companies around taking advantage of the financial situation to grab desperate people they can chew up and spit out. Well, I guess there's always been companies like that, but I've heard a lot more horror stories recently.
http://gawker.com/company-sorry-for-turning-job-interview-into-a-daft-pun-1277306530

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Demolition Squid

Why did I scroll down to the comments?

Quote from: FirstTimeCallerOf course Bacon will sue and the store will end up nullifying the winner of the dance off. Way to screw up someone else's life there Bacon. Ever think that the rest of the dancers liked the challenge? Selfish much?

Quote from: KumquatRodeaI'm okay with this. It's like karaoke - you don't necessarily have to be good, you just have to be enthusiastic. That's the person I want working for me! (Bonus points if they can be the DD after the happy hours on Friday).   

Quote from: IdontNeedSocietyAny company that concerns itself with "fun" is guaranteed to fail in the long run.

What the fuck is wrong with these people?!
Vast and Roaring Nipplebeast from the Dawn of Soho