Feminists are Scary.

[Ben Shapiro]

I see that.  Thanks pointing out my monkey moment.

Everyone gets 'em.   

DOUR,
Prone to them, myself.

All that Punk Rock music, and Miley Cyrus.

And that debbil marrywanna.

Kraft Cheese.

I am a hopeless addict.   

I have to whore out to get a slice of Queso. Not the good authentic stuff like in Maine though.

[Ben Shapiro]

Sadly, the tumblr feminist subculture has quite a few people who self-identify as "misandrists" and claim men are inherently violent, men cannot be raped or subject to physical abuse, that all men are potential rapists etc.

Now, quite a few of these blogs are parody blogs, or blogs run by unstable children looking for attention, even if its negative.  I'm also fairly sure the larger tumblr feminist culture is quite sane and rational.  But they do, unfortunately exist, and frequently get linked to by Reddit etc because of their insane and outrageous opinions.

They are, in many respects, doing Limbaugh's work for him.

Thanks for bringing that point to the table Cain.  It's quite interesting how people allegedly of an opposing political opinion are willing to do the dirty work of their enemy, and I certainly won't scroll past it like you had posted nothing at all for the next hour.

Didn't you post something like this before? Don't take anything on Tumblr serious ever? I'm just following orders.

Also maybe I'm getting the shitnecks of feminism because I live in Texas.

[Cain]

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[Ben Shapiro]

Sadly, the tumblr feminist subculture has quite a few people who self-identify as "misandrists" and claim men are inherently violent, men cannot be raped or subject to physical abuse, that all men are potential rapists etc.

Now, quite a few of these blogs are parody blogs, or blogs run by unstable children looking for attention, even if its negative.  I'm also fairly sure the larger tumblr feminist culture is quite sane and rational.  But they do, unfortunately exist, and frequently get linked to by Reddit etc because of their insane and outrageous opinions.

They are, in many respects, doing Limbaugh's work for him.

Thanks for bringing that point to the table Cain.  It's quite interesting how people allegedly of an opposing political opinion are willing to do the dirty work of their enemy, and I certainly won't scroll past it like you had posted nothing at all for the next hour.

Didn't you post something like this before? Don't take anything on Tumblr serious ever? I'm just following orders.

Also maybe I'm getting the shitnecks of feminism because I live in Texas.

Well excuse me for trying to take part in a fucking conversation. 

Excuse me for taking your advice from previous posts. Don't listen to dumbasses on tumbler unless making fun of them.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Sadly, the tumblr feminist subculture has quite a few people who self-identify as "misandrists" and claim men are inherently violent, men cannot be raped or subject to physical abuse, that all men are potential rapists etc.

Now, quite a few of these blogs are parody blogs, or blogs run by unstable children looking for attention, even if its negative.  I'm also fairly sure the larger tumblr feminist culture is quite sane and rational.  But they do, unfortunately exist, and frequently get linked to by Reddit etc because of their insane and outrageous opinions.

They are, in many respects, doing Limbaugh's work for him.

Thanks for bringing that point to the table Cain.  It's quite interesting how people allegedly of an opposing political opinion are willing to do the dirty work of their enemy, and I certainly won't scroll past it like you had posted nothing at all for the next hour.

My bad, dude.

[Cain]

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[Cain]

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[The Good Reverend Roger]

Well, FB is just as bad.  #fuckcismales is good for a fucking laugh, and for the same reason.

You basically have the Garbo Effect going.  Nobody's there to fix anything, they're there to establish cred under that particular blanket.

[Pæs]

I see now my "but" is already included in the question, or is a given.

But the funny thing is, whenever I ask that question, the FIRST thing most people (not just guys, either) do is throw qualifiers and/or disclaimers all over it.

This was a pretty good example of how not to get caught up on a miscommunication, or a relative newcomer to the subject tripping over a trope (or even just appearing to, by acting in a way which is close enough to the trope). Here, it plays out like this, usually.

In other circles, he could become "that sexist who says 'women should be equal BUT'" and the conversation is over... It's similar to someone entering PD and their first post reading like pinealism or libertarianism... The kinds of things that if you plugged into a naive bayesian classifier, to judge the probability of someone not being worth engaging with based on isolated traits, would swing the likelihood towards "irredeemable douchepolisher" pretty quickly. It's a combination of issues with pattern-matching, issues with the newcomer digging their heels in and issues with the community rejecting them.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

In other circles, he could become "that sexist who says 'women should be equal BUT'" and the conversation is over...

And these are the circles that make everything WORSE while they congratulate themselves on how militant they are.

[Pæs]

Sadly, the tumblr feminist subculture has quite a few people who self-identify as "misandrists" and claim men are inherently violent, men cannot be raped or subject to physical abuse, that all men are potential rapists etc.

Now, quite a few of these blogs are parody blogs, or blogs run by unstable children looking for attention, even if its negative.  I'm also fairly sure the larger tumblr feminist culture is quite sane and rational.  But they do, unfortunately exist, and frequently get linked to by Reddit etc because of their insane and outrageous opinions.

They are, in many respects, doing Limbaugh's work for him.

Thanks for bringing that point to the table Cain.  It's quite interesting how people allegedly of an opposing political opinion are willing to do the dirty work of their enemy, and I certainly won't scroll past it like you had posted nothing at all for the next hour.

I was asleep, so can't really take any responsibility for ignoring you.

Yeah, there are definitely a collection of "radfems" with the positions you describe. If you look hard enough, you can find people espousing the belief that "men are, ipso facto, rapists, whether or not they ever 'technically' rape anyone" or "the balance of power in the patriarchy is such that a woman CANNOT consent to sex without being a victim of it."

Fortunately, the consensus of the feminists I associate with is "Those People are a bit nuts". It pays to keep in mind that these same fringes of feminism also hold beliefs that directly conflict with those of the core of the movement. There's a lot of "trans women are imposters and perverts", "trans men are traitors to womanhood", while the centre of feminism is all about acceptance of the right to self-determine gender identity.

So yeah, the extremist feminist exists but I (getting into a number of discussions on the subject) haven't encountered any. Probably because I only use tumblr for lols. It's loosely comparable to the preference of some media to use extreme religious fringes to dismiss the centre of those movements.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Sadly, the tumblr feminist subculture has quite a few people who self-identify as "misandrists" and claim men are inherently violent, men cannot be raped or subject to physical abuse, that all men are potential rapists etc.

Now, quite a few of these blogs are parody blogs, or blogs run by unstable children looking for attention, even if its negative.  I'm also fairly sure the larger tumblr feminist culture is quite sane and rational.  But they do, unfortunately exist, and frequently get linked to by Reddit etc because of their insane and outrageous opinions.

They are, in many respects, doing Limbaugh's work for him.

My daughter is involved in the Tumblr feminist scene, which was concerning at first but luckily she has a pretty level head on her shoulders and a tendency to remind people that men are people with feelings and that people don't know what they haven't learned yet.

Hopefully she'll stay that way.

I deeply dislike the attention-whoring militant misandrist crowd. I always find myself wondering what proportion of them are actually misogynistic shills out to make a mockery of feminism, but then I remember, humans, and I realize it's teeth-grindingly few.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

and that people don't know what they haven't learned yet.

And THIS is the fucking part I've been hollering about for the last 18 months.  THAT, RIGHT THERE.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Thank your daughter for me.  She's smarter than my old ass, and managed to word in one phrase what I've been trying to say since 2011.

[Pæs]

In other circles, he could become "that sexist who says 'women should be equal BUT'" and the conversation is over...

And these are the circles that make everything WORSE while they congratulate themselves on how militant they are.

They're in an interesting position which I don't know how to approach. I like to be conscious of how it looks to a feminist community to have a dude come in and tell them what-for and why they're DOING IT WRONG. Wish me luck not tripping over any established tropes with THAT approach. They're also (quite understandably, IMO) reacting and perceiving themselves to be reacting to a system that attacked them first.

For me, it's a matter of balancing that understanding with an interest in helping to communicate the pretty important message they've got.