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Apparently christianity is bullshit...

Started by P3nT4gR4m, October 09, 2013, 10:02:32 AM

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Faust

Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 09, 2013, 03:12:51 PM
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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on October 09, 2013, 03:02:55 PM
What the fuck is a Nazarene and how do you make them froth with rage?  :eek:

Nazarenes are a small sect, mostly in the American Southwest, who try to actually do what Jesus said.  They don't get mad, as far as I can tell.  The don't preach, they lead by example.  They consider hating ANYONE to be a sin.  They don't believe it's their place to get in your business.

I like 'em.  I had one for a neighbor for 2 years, nicest guy you'd ever want to meet.  My daughter and I checked out their church, and the pastor was giving them shit about charity on a day-to-day level.

Sermon drifted from there, but ended with "You can't hate and still be a Christian".

Ah, so there are genuine christians then... that's somehow refreshing to know.

They are considered an aberration in America.  EVERYONE hates their ass.   :lulz:

Why? they sound lovely.
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Quote from: Faust on October 09, 2013, 03:26:45 PM
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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on October 09, 2013, 03:02:55 PM
What the fuck is a Nazarene and how do you make them froth with rage?  :eek:

Nazarenes are a small sect, mostly in the American Southwest, who try to actually do what Jesus said.  They don't get mad, as far as I can tell.  The don't preach, they lead by example.  They consider hating ANYONE to be a sin.  They don't believe it's their place to get in your business.

I like 'em.  I had one for a neighbor for 2 years, nicest guy you'd ever want to meet.  My daughter and I checked out their church, and the pastor was giving them shit about charity on a day-to-day level.

Sermon drifted from there, but ended with "You can't hate and still be a Christian".

Ah, so there are genuine christians then... that's somehow refreshing to know.

They are considered an aberration in America.  EVERYONE hates their ass.   :lulz:

Why? they sound lovely.

They make other Christians look bad, and they also make people who hate on Christians look bad. There's nothing worse than an exception when you're in the middle of screeching about how awful Christians are.

They're terribly inconvenient.
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Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 09, 2013, 03:30:59 PM
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Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 09, 2013, 03:12:51 PM
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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on October 09, 2013, 03:02:55 PM
What the fuck is a Nazarene and how do you make them froth with rage?  :eek:

Nazarenes are a small sect, mostly in the American Southwest, who try to actually do what Jesus said.  They don't get mad, as far as I can tell.  The don't preach, they lead by example.  They consider hating ANYONE to be a sin.  They don't believe it's their place to get in your business.

I like 'em.  I had one for a neighbor for 2 years, nicest guy you'd ever want to meet.  My daughter and I checked out their church, and the pastor was giving them shit about charity on a day-to-day level.

Sermon drifted from there, but ended with "You can't hate and still be a Christian".

Ah, so there are genuine christians then... that's somehow refreshing to know.

They are considered an aberration in America.  EVERYONE hates their ass.   :lulz:

Why? they sound lovely.

They make other Christians look bad, and they also make people who hate on Christians look bad. There's nothing worse than an exception when you're in the middle of screeching about how awful Christians are.

They're terribly inconvenient.

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Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 09, 2013, 03:30:59 PM
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Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 09, 2013, 03:09:40 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on October 09, 2013, 03:02:55 PM
What the fuck is a Nazarene and how do you make them froth with rage?  :eek:

Nazarenes are a small sect, mostly in the American Southwest, who try to actually do what Jesus said.  They don't get mad, as far as I can tell.  The don't preach, they lead by example.  They consider hating ANYONE to be a sin.  They don't believe it's their place to get in your business.

I like 'em.  I had one for a neighbor for 2 years, nicest guy you'd ever want to meet.  My daughter and I checked out their church, and the pastor was giving them shit about charity on a day-to-day level.

Sermon drifted from there, but ended with "You can't hate and still be a Christian".

Ah, so there are genuine christians then... that's somehow refreshing to know.

They are considered an aberration in America.  EVERYONE hates their ass.   :lulz:

Why? they sound lovely.

They make other Christians look bad, and they also make people who hate on Christians look bad. There's nothing worse than an exception when you're in the middle of screeching about how awful Christians are.

They're terribly inconvenient.

It also depends on the specific church. My grandma was a Nazrene and her church tended to be more judgmental (and generally mental) than the Nazerenes I knew from other churches. But overall, they seem kind of like the American version of the Church of England.
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Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 09, 2013, 03:30:59 PM
Quote from: Faust on October 09, 2013, 03:26:45 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 09, 2013, 03:12:51 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on October 09, 2013, 03:12:00 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 09, 2013, 03:09:40 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on October 09, 2013, 03:02:55 PM
What the fuck is a Nazarene and how do you make them froth with rage?  :eek:

Nazarenes are a small sect, mostly in the American Southwest, who try to actually do what Jesus said.  They don't get mad, as far as I can tell.  The don't preach, they lead by example.  They consider hating ANYONE to be a sin.  They don't believe it's their place to get in your business.

I like 'em.  I had one for a neighbor for 2 years, nicest guy you'd ever want to meet.  My daughter and I checked out their church, and the pastor was giving them shit about charity on a day-to-day level.

Sermon drifted from there, but ended with "You can't hate and still be a Christian".

Ah, so there are genuine christians then... that's somehow refreshing to know.

They are considered an aberration in America.  EVERYONE hates their ass.   :lulz:

Why? they sound lovely.

They make other Christians look bad, and they also make people who hate on Christians look bad. There's nothing worse than an exception when you're in the middle of screeching about how awful Christians are.

They're terribly inconvenient.

It's sort of why the GOP hated Clinton so much...He went and DID what THEY just talked about (reducing the deficit), which took away their EXCUSE.
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Faust

Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 09, 2013, 03:30:59 PM
Quote from: Faust on October 09, 2013, 03:26:45 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 09, 2013, 03:12:51 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on October 09, 2013, 03:12:00 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 09, 2013, 03:09:40 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on October 09, 2013, 03:02:55 PM
What the fuck is a Nazarene and how do you make them froth with rage?  :eek:

Nazarenes are a small sect, mostly in the American Southwest, who try to actually do what Jesus said.  They don't get mad, as far as I can tell.  The don't preach, they lead by example.  They consider hating ANYONE to be a sin.  They don't believe it's their place to get in your business.

I like 'em.  I had one for a neighbor for 2 years, nicest guy you'd ever want to meet.  My daughter and I checked out their church, and the pastor was giving them shit about charity on a day-to-day level.

Sermon drifted from there, but ended with "You can't hate and still be a Christian".

Ah, so there are genuine christians then... that's somehow refreshing to know.

They are considered an aberration in America.  EVERYONE hates their ass.   :lulz:

Why? they sound lovely.

They make other Christians look bad, and they also make people who hate on Christians look bad. There's nothing worse than an exception when you're in the middle of screeching about how awful Christians are.

They're terribly inconvenient.

Sounds awfully familiar to their namesakes story...
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Just read the article. Mirroring what Cain pointing out that the guy cites atheist blogs and forums and Suu's in depth analysis of why he's full of shit, the whole concept is very.... conspiratorial. It was the Early Roman Empire. Even without Christianity, there were plenty of cults popping up here, there, and everywhere. There's no real reason to think that Christianity specifically was concocted by patricians in order to keep Jews in line and pay their taxes when the Romans at the time were very effective at just sending in a legion and killing the shit out of everyone. Unless you want to argue that Mithras was also concocted by the patricians in order to get the legions to do precisely that. The whole "there are literary clues for the alert reader to know" angle is also laughable. This guy sounds like Dan Brown, but instead of Jesus getting laid, there's no Jesus to get laid. I'm sure this will make him a bit of money though, and approving ooks from the [not] skeptical [enough] community.
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Also, if the Romans had invented Christianity, it was probably one of the biggest blunders they could have possibly made, other than treating their Hun mercenaries like dirt.
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I seem to recall the "Josephus" thing from tiny ads in magazines like FATE and the like from 20+ years ago. I guess someone decided to slap on some new paint and file the serial numbers off.

Besides, didn't The Passover Plot pretty much cover this territory in the first place?
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Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 09, 2013, 06:27:21 PM
Also, if the Romans had invented Christianity, it was probably one of the biggest blunders they could have possibly made, other than treating their Hun mercenaries like dirt.

Whether or not the Romans "invented" christianity, it's common knowledge* that the Romans were the ones responsible for its political success, globally. It was actually a really shrewd move but, unfortunately for the Romans, it turned out to be too little too late. A bandaid on the severed head of an empire that had already gone USA-2020 by then.




*common knowledge of the type - which faithfools are immune to

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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on October 09, 2013, 08:17:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 09, 2013, 06:27:21 PM
Also, if the Romans had invented Christianity, it was probably one of the biggest blunders they could have possibly made, other than treating their Hun mercenaries like dirt.

Whether or not the Romans "invented" christianity, it's common knowledge* that the Romans were the ones responsible for its political success, globally. It was actually a really shrewd move but, unfortunately for the Romans, it turned out to be too little too late. A bandaid on the severed head of an empire that had already gone USA-2020 by then.




*common knowledge of the type - which faithfools are immune to

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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on October 09, 2013, 08:17:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 09, 2013, 06:27:21 PM
Also, if the Romans had invented Christianity, it was probably one of the biggest blunders they could have possibly made, other than treating their Hun mercenaries like dirt.

Whether or not the Romans "invented" christianity, it's common knowledge* that the Romans were the ones responsible for its political success, globally. It was actually a really shrewd move but, unfortunately for the Romans, it turned out to be too little too late. A bandaid on the severed head of an empire that had already gone USA-2020 by then.




*common knowledge of the type - which faithfools are immune to
Certainly. When a religion that says the state religion is false becomes popular amongst both your slaves and your soldiers its time to switch gods at least officially.
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Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 09, 2013, 03:01:36 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on October 09, 2013, 02:56:58 PM
If you like that, you might like the main hook I've been using to bait christians with for years. It's best applied at the "tipping point" where they're starting to really lose their shit at you.

The great big, glaringly obvious logical fallacy - "Jesus died for our sins"

Thing is, Jesus never actually died. Given that Jesus was just an avatar for god, who is all powerful and blessed with cheat-code superpowers including infinite lives cheat and seeing into the future hack

So god sent himself to earth, knowing he was going to get nailed. He basically committed consequence-free suicide (consequence-free in that he didn't actually die for real) in order to balance the books on humanities wickedness. Who's books? Oh, yeah, that's right - his own books. So all he really had to do was write it off in the ledger and save himself all that passive aggressive grandstanding. I mean, he'd already chucked the rulebook out the window when he did the walking on water gag or when he got everyone drunk at the H2O kegger party so why did he have to do something totally fucking meaningless to scrub the sins score?

In my experience there is no more effective way to get a christian to throw a punch at you.

Try it on a Nazarene.  They'll just listen to your opinion, perhaps politely disagree, then move on with their day.

They sound like amazing people I wan to look more into their sector.

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Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 09, 2013, 08:47:59 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on October 09, 2013, 08:17:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 09, 2013, 06:27:21 PM
Also, if the Romans had invented Christianity, it was probably one of the biggest blunders they could have possibly made, other than treating their Hun mercenaries like dirt.

Whether or not the Romans "invented" christianity, it's common knowledge* that the Romans were the ones responsible for its political success, globally. It was actually a really shrewd move but, unfortunately for the Romans, it turned out to be too little too late. A bandaid on the severed head of an empire that had already gone USA-2020 by then.




*common knowledge of the type - which faithfools are immune to
Certainly. When a religion that says the state religion is false becomes popular amongst both your slaves and your soldiers its time to switch gods at least officially.

If Christianity would have hit 100 years before or after it did, it would have never spread. It hit during a weak religious period in the early empire when the State Religion was basically worshiping the Emperor, which not everyone agreed with. 100 years earlier, the Mithras cult was in full swing, 100 years after, Zoroastrianism was starting to filter in, and so were Egyptian cults followed by Sol Invictus, which despite what you may have heard, was actually a sub-cult of Apollo. Constantine didn't make it up to help people convert to Christianity.
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Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 09, 2013, 08:42:08 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on October 09, 2013, 08:17:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 09, 2013, 06:27:21 PM
Also, if the Romans had invented Christianity, it was probably one of the biggest blunders they could have possibly made, other than treating their Hun mercenaries like dirt.

Whether or not the Romans "invented" christianity, it's common knowledge* that the Romans were the ones responsible for its political success, globally. It was actually a really shrewd move but, unfortunately for the Romans, it turned out to be too little too late. A bandaid on the severed head of an empire that had already gone USA-2020 by then.




*common knowledge of the type - which faithfools are immune to

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Yeah.

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