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So, it looks like my child-rearing philosophy was correct...

Started by The Good Reverend Roger, October 21, 2013, 09:59:42 PM

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#15
October 22, 2013, 05:01:20 PM
Spanking really has no utility as far as getting the child to learn or adjust behavior.  It works in the short term, but it is consistent reasoning that is going to work in the long run.  I've never raised a hand to either of my children.  Reasoning worked fine.  You may not be able to reason with a 2 year old but spanking them doesn't teach them anything other than when you make Mommy or Daddy mad they are going to smack you. 
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The Good Reverend Roger

#16
October 22, 2013, 05:08:22 PM
Quote from: What's New Wildebeest? on October 22, 2013, 05:01:20 PM
Spanking really has no utility as far as getting the child to learn or adjust behavior.  It works in the short term, but it is consistent reasoning that is going to work in the long run.  I've never raised a hand to either of my children.  Reasoning worked fine.  You may not be able to reason with a 2 year old but spanking them doesn't teach them anything other than when you make Mommy or Daddy mad they are going to smack you.

And don't stick the fork in the electrical outlet.

But, of course, your children are fucking GENIUSES and understood electrical theory from the moment of conception, right?

:lulz:
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Demolition Squid

#17
October 22, 2013, 05:11:48 PM
I was spanked, although I'd be quick to say they never overdid it. Its definitely not the spanking which has stayed with me over the years.

My dad has recently expressed some weird views on this, though. He said it is most useful for the parents; that a lot of the parents he saw who never spanked their kid would instead get very frustrated, bottle it up, and create an atmosphere of tension that would upset the kid more because they can't do anything about it. To his way of thinking, at least with a quick spank, its all over afterwards and both parent and kid can feel like the issue is resolved.

I'm not sure I agree, but I don't have kids and have no plans to change that any time soon, if at all. I do not feel in any way qualified to tell anyone else how to do it.
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#18
October 22, 2013, 05:12:29 PM
No.  That's what outlet covers are for.  If they did try to mess with them, I'd just say, "No, ouch, hot" and move them away.  Seemed to do the trick.
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#19
October 22, 2013, 05:16:49 PM
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

The Good Reverend Roger

#20
October 22, 2013, 05:17:05 PM
Quote from: What's New Wildebeest? on October 22, 2013, 05:12:29 PM
No.  That's what outlet covers are for.  If they did try to mess with them, I'd just say, "No, ouch, hot" and move them away.  Seemed to do the trick.

Yes, because when visiting other peoples' houses, it is totally acceptable to ask them to baby-proof their house before you arrive.

UNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG

RWHN, of course, is an expert on all things, and has achieved a state of Mike.  In which not only is HE right, EVERYONE ELSE HAS TO BE WRONG.  NO MATTER WHAT THE SUBJECT IS.

I gotta ask, RWHN, have you ever considered a career in the field of engineering?

Because you and Mike really ought to go bowling.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

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#21
October 22, 2013, 05:22:44 PM
I'm not seeing universal agreement ITT that spanking = good.
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

The Good Reverend Roger

#22
October 22, 2013, 05:24:00 PM
Quote from: What's New Wildebeest? on October 22, 2013, 05:22:44 PM
I'm not seeing universal agreement ITT that spanking = good.

What the fuck does that have to do with anything?  You're here to vomit up your contrarianism again.  Just like always.  It's what you DO.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Lord Cataplanga

#23
October 22, 2013, 06:23:46 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 22, 2013, 05:17:05 PM
Quote from: What's New Wildebeest? on October 22, 2013, 05:12:29 PM
No.  That's what outlet covers are for.  If they did try to mess with them, I'd just say, "No, ouch, hot" and move them away.  Seemed to do the trick.

Yes, because when visiting other peoples' houses, it is totally acceptable to ask them to baby-proof their house before you arrive.

Maybe he kept his assets well protected at his own home all the time. That seems to be the more responsible policy.

Quote from: Demolition Squid on October 22, 2013, 05:11:48 PM
I was spanked, although I'd be quick to say they never overdid it. Its definitely not the spanking which has stayed with me over the years.

My dad has recently expressed some weird views on this, though. He said it is most useful for the parents; that a lot of the parents he saw who never spanked their kid would instead get very frustrated, bottle it up, and create an atmosphere of tension that would upset the kid more because they can't do anything about it. To his way of thinking, at least with a quick spank, its all over afterwards and both parent and kid can feel like the issue is resolved.

I'm not sure I agree, but I don't have kids and have no plans to change that any time soon, if at all. I do not feel in any way qualified to tell anyone else how to do it.

I think he's wrong too, but it does sugest an interesting idea: that just because you don't spank your kid, doesn't mean you are a great parent. You have to look out for other forms of emotional abuse too.
The article linked in the OP mentioned that yelling, which many people use instead of spanking, is also ineffective.

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#24
October 22, 2013, 06:34:58 PM
I agree, emotional abuse or threats can be just as ineffective or damaging,  Parenting is a marathon, not a sprint. Actually, it's more like marathons, one after another into infinity.  Consistency and persistence are the keys.
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Kai

#25
October 22, 2013, 06:41:50 PM
Quote from: What's New Wildebeest? on October 22, 2013, 06:34:58 PM
I agree, emotional abuse or threats can be just as ineffective or damaging,  Parenting is a marathon, not a sprint. Actually, it's more like marathons, one after another into infinity.  Consistency and persistence are the keys.

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#26
October 22, 2013, 06:53:20 PM
Another thread derailed. Yay.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

Ben Shapiro

#27
October 22, 2013, 07:00:42 PM
4 more months.

Anna Mae Bollocks

#28
October 22, 2013, 07:09:06 PM
My kids pulled outlet covers right out, ten minutes after I put them in.  :lol: They never stuck forks in the outlets, but the covers were an ATTRACTION.

Quote from: What's New Wildebeest? on October 22, 2013, 05:01:20 PM
Spanking really has no utility as far as getting the child to learn or adjust behavior.  It works in the short term, but it is consistent reasoning that is going to work in the long run.  I've never raised a hand to either of my children.  Reasoning worked fine.  You may not be able to reason with a 2 year old but spanking them doesn't teach them anything other than when you make Mommy or Daddy mad they are going to smack you. 

You don't do it when you're mad, stupid. Reacting from anger with kids never works.

Totally fucking pissed = cool off before dealing with kids.
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#29
October 22, 2013, 07:10:54 PM
RWHN: Here to inform the other parents they're doing it wrong.  :lulz:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

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