Atheists and White Supremacists

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Also, Coyote, you need to check your deeply-held beliefs. That's the whole point of this thread. You are clearly so emotionally wrapped up in your idea of being an Atheist that it inspires a REALLY FUCKING STRONG HATE REACTION when someone throws rocks at it.

Maybe you'll recall how to be bipedal after you step back for a bit. I hope so, because I really like you.

[Faust]

well I think I'm definitely to be going to leave.

Don't.

I know my opinion doesn't have much weight around here anyways,  and that is going to be labeled attention seeking behavior because my precious feefees got hurt by the mean nigel for nigeling me.

I don't think so, there were a lot of people who got offended with this thread and you're entitled to say so. But at the end of the day this is just one discussion, we don't have to agree on everything, and we've realised how volatile the forum really is.

With that knowledge would it not be better to try and overcome that and put an end to the weird air of hysteria that's hung in the air for months?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Also, Coyote, you need to check your deeply-held beliefs. That's the whole point of this thread. You are clearly so emotionally wrapped up in your idea of being an Atheist that it inspires a REALLY FUCKING STRONG HATE REACTION when someone throws rocks at it.

Maybe you'll recall how to be bipedal after you step back for a bit. I hope so, because I really like you.

I did.  Until I realized that I am his EXCUSE.  That's what the fuck I am. 

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Ironically, that militant atheist quote Nigel posted reads like some kind of George Bush bullshit: "If you ain't for us, you is a terrarist agin us". 

[Demolition Squid]

I don't think Roger was actually calling people sexist so much as he was trying to provoke a reaction. Mine was to stop and take a good long look at what was actually going on.

I still don't think what Nigel posted was cool. I don't think it is really equatable to the 'calling everyone white' or 'calling everyone privileged' stuff either. But I don't care enough to keep arguing about it. I've said what I think, and if that's not enough, well, it doesn't matter to me that much that Nigel (or anyone else) thinks I'm wrong. From where I'm sitting, there's mostly three ways to go.

1) Continue trying to argue about this even though it is fairly clear that neither side is going to convince the other about anything.
2) Ignore the discussion and find other stuff to talk about here.
3) Go and do something else.

I've been trying to do 2. This keeps getting dragged into other areas, though, which is making it increasingly difficult.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Sucks that you see it that way, Coyote. It's not what I got out of this at all. 

[Nephew Twiddleton]

I'm not flouncing but I'm probably not going to post for the remainder of the day. I'm getting a headache.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I'm not flouncing but I'm probably not going to post for the remainder of the day. I'm getting a headache.

I'm going to go write some more.

And stop worrying about people who are using me as outrage pornography.  Seriously, after 10 years, being the cartoon fucking bad guy gets a little old.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I still don't think what Nigel posted was cool.

Why was it not cool?

Was it because it made an unfavorable comparison between something you like and something you don't like?

Was it because you thought that I was literally saying that Atheists are exactly the same in every way as White Supremacists?

Was it because people couldn't unjerk their knees enough to go "Huh, that's a weird comparison, I wonder why she would say that?"

Was it because there is a really uncomfortable kernel of truth in it, and that's what has people so fucking pissed off that they can't even think?

[Demolition Squid]

It pissed me off for the same reason P3nt using the term 'Faithfools' pissed me off. I have said that about three times.

I don't find that kind of hyperbole acceptable. I'd rather you used the more moderate version you posted, or used the term 'extreme atheists' or... anything, really, other than the version which can provoke this sort of entirely predictable reaction.

It has nothing to do with me liking atheism and not liking racism; I had the same reaction between two things I don't like.
It has nothing to do with misinterpreting your statement. I was fairly sure you didn't actually mean that, I just prefer people not to use broad, insulting brushes no matter what they are talking about.
It has nothing to do with other people's reactions. I'd typed my post even before I saw Cain's.
It has nothing to do with the truth behind the actual point. One of the most important lessons I've learned about communication is that it doesn't matter if you are right, if people think you are an asshole they won't listen to you anyway.

That was why I wanted you to apologize. You won't, you stand by your style. That's fine. I've now said why I disagree like... three times, I think, in different ways. It ultimately boils down to a preference for different types of tone, I think, and that's entirely personal.

[LMNO]

Part of me feels that you pretty much knew the kind of reaction you'd get from the way the OP was structured (that is, much strife and butthurt); and that you not only expected it, it seems like that have may been the reaction you wanted to see.

At least, that's sort of what it looked like from these eyes.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Part of me feels that you pretty much knew the kind of reaction you'd get from the way the OP was structured (that is, much strife and butthurt); and that you not only expected it, it seems like that have may been the reaction you wanted to see.

At least, that's sort of what it looked like from these eyes.

I expected a reaction. Obviously, or I wouldn't have posted an obviously inflammatory post. In fact, we've been through this exact conversation before, with several other threads over the years... which is one reason why I didn't expect exactly the reaction I got. I didn't expect the haterage, I expected that I'd get back from school and a few people would have been all "WTF" and maybe a conversation would have gotten started about the insecurity and aggressive us/them tribal identity that has become so incredibly prevalent in Atheism.

But, that's not the reaction I got. And I still haven't read the rest of the thread, and I'm not sure I'm going to because I've seen enough of it to realize that it probably contains a lot of very directed hatred.

And, the results of this thread are so far from what I expected from the community that produced Common Walls that I am actually pretty sure at this point that I don't belong here, at all.

[Demolition Squid]

And, the results of this thread are so far from what I expected from the community that produced Common Walls that I am actually pretty sure at this point that I don't belong here, at all.

This seems to be a common reaction to this thread.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Wait just a second.

The Discordian knows that if there is ONE THING, even ONE tiny THING which another person can say in words or write down or draw in a picture which can cause said Discordian to have some kind of  hissyfit "how DARE you" reaction, that is a handle attached directly to the brain, by which The Machine™ can pick up that Discordian and walk him/her around like a funny little doll...Just the way it does its other cogs.  It is the duty of the Discordian to purge him or herself of such bad signal.  "Have just a little discretion" is The Machine's way of saying "I'll just stick it in A LITTLE bit."

As the Subgenii say, "FUCK EM IF THEY CAN'T TAKE A JOKE."

Now, lots of people got pissed off in this thread.  I know I did.  And that is HOW you purge that bad signal.  Get pissed, bounce off the walls until that shit comes flying out.

But having purged it, what then?  Waste all that effort by WALKING AWAY, with a BIG SORE ASS?

I don't know what to call that, but it's not MY Discordia­™.

[LMNO]

Is there a reason you chose white supremacy over other hateful uniforms people wear, like Westboro Baptists, or Red Sox Nation?  I have a feeling the board reaction would have been much different.

Because the comparison heard was Racisim, not wrapping ones self in a uniform and creating the Other.