Atheists and White Supremacists

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

The images Nigel posted were created by dicks.

That's the atheists she was talking about. Not the ones who would help somebody out because it's the right thing to do, not because they think Sky Daddy has a recording angel writing things in a book. Not even the ones who never do a fucking thing for anybody, but don't need to fling shit at another group that they've painted with the proverbial broad brush in order to make themselves feel better. Maybe she should have been clearer about that, but I know that I for one hate phrasing everything with disclaimers and "OK, I don't mean YOU, and this isn't everybody and YMMV and..."

Then the thread goes sideways. 

[Demolition Squid]

On the other hand, P3nt went through GREAT LENGTHS to make it clear he wasn't trying to target everyone with beliefs when he talked about Faithfools.

Its still not okay. That's all there is to it, as far as I can tell.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

On the other hand, P3nt went through GREAT LENGTHS to make it clear he wasn't trying to target everyone with beliefs when he talked about Faithfools.

Its still not okay. That's all there is to it, as far as I can tell.

Did he? Ill have to reread the thread then. I seem to remember it ending with the sentiment that while religion is retarded he can see why it might be unfair to make fun of religious people because they were probably born into their flavor of delusion and never bothered to question it.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I don't have time to catch up on this thread this morning because I have a paper due, but I'm disappointed. The number of people who reacted with "FUCK OFF I DON'T RESPECT YOU ANYMORE" is disheartening. People I thought were intelligent are reacting with outright HATE because I suggested that identifying with a group that is defined by what it is not reflects insecurity.

Of course, that hate also reflects insecurity, which really just reinforces my point.

As for the images that are created by assholes, one of the things I tried to point out is the distinct LACK of outrage from the "atheist community" about them. In some cases, failing to reject something is tantamount to condoning it, and I see a lot of condoning.

As for the "I don't mean you" disclaimers, it's increasingly clear that I DO mean you, whichever OUTRAGED person you are who is just ABSOLUTELY FURIOUS that I dared imply that you're insecure.

Your outrage is a brilliant shining indicator of your insecurity.

There are better, brighter, and more interesting things about you than your belief that there's no God, or your membership in the club that gloats over those who don't share it. If you are reacting with outrage over the premise that people who identify as Atheists are insecure, you might want to re-evaluate what's really important to you about who you are.

[tyrannosaurus vex]

I don't have time to catch up on this thread this morning because I have a paper due, but I'm disappointed. The number of people who reacted with "FUCK OFF I DON'T RESPECT YOU ANYMORE" is disheartening. People I thought were intelligent are reacting with outright HATE because I suggested that identifying with a group that is defined by what it is not reflects insecurity.

Of course, that hate also reflects insecurity, which really just reinforces my point.

As for the images that are created by assholes, one of the things I tried to point out is the distinct LACK of outrage from the "atheist community" about them. In some cases, failing to reject something is tantamount to condoning it, and I see a lot of condoning.

As for the "I don't mean you" disclaimers, it's increasingly clear that I DO mean you, whichever OUTRAGED person you are who is just ABSOLUTELY FURIOUS that I dared imply that you're insecure.

Your outrage is a brilliant shining indicator of your insecurity.

There are better, brighter, and more interesting things about you than your belief that there's no God, or your membership in the club that gloats over those who don't share it. If you are reacting with outrage over the premise that people who identify as Atheists are insecure, you might want to re-evaluate what's really important to you about who you are.

If you say so, Nigel.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

On the other hand, P3nt went through GREAT LENGTHS to make it clear he wasn't trying to target everyone with beliefs when he talked about Faithfools.

Oh, so it's a "there are black people and there are niggers" sort of statement?

Why didn't someone say so?  That makes everything better.

DOUR,
Good Negro

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I have stayed out of this thread for 24 hours, hoping that it would either turn into a discussion or burn itself out.

Neither one has happened.

So I guess I'll just jump back in the mosh pit with everyone else.  I mean, why the fuck not?  Let's torch this fucking place, shall we?  Let's all say all manner of shit that we can't ever take back, so that we can enjoy a few minutes of feeling deliciously outraged.  After all, outrage is PORN nowdays, and WHY THINK WHEN YOU CAN GET YOUR ROCKS OFF?

So, yeah.  Hello, nurse.

[Demolition Squid]

On the other hand, P3nt went through GREAT LENGTHS to make it clear he wasn't trying to target everyone with beliefs when he talked about Faithfools.

Oh, so it's a "there are black people and there are niggers" sort of statement?

Why didn't someone say so?  That makes everything better.

DOUR,
Good Negro

THAT IS EXACTLY WHY NIGEL'S STATEMENT PISSES ME OFF.

That is the point I am making. This is why her digging her heels in and screeching it is somehow wrong for me to be offended by this is so fucking aggravating.

It wasn't right then, it isn't right now, and you know what? Yeah, I'm outraged. Because I thought she was better than that, and I was wrong.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

On the other hand, P3nt went through GREAT LENGTHS to make it clear he wasn't trying to target everyone with beliefs when he talked about Faithfools.

Oh, so it's a "there are black people and there are niggers" sort of statement?

Why didn't someone say so?  That makes everything better.

DOUR,
Good Negro

THAT IS EXACTLY WHY NIGEL'S STATEMENT PISSES ME OFF.

That is the point I am making. This is why her digging her heels in and screeching it is somehow wrong for me to be offended by this is so fucking aggravating.

And you don't see the direct fucking comparison?  That's fucking weird, because I thought you were one of the three fucking people that did.  So fuck me if I'm going to miss a good brawl.

Let's blow the fucking windows out of this joint.

[Demolition Squid]

Sorry, edited to clarify the above, Roger.

Yes, I see the comparison. What Nigel did and what P3NT did are both unacceptable. That's the point.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

It wasn't right then, it isn't right now, and you know what? Yeah, I'm outraged. Because I thought she was better than that, and I was wrong.

Now, THAT'S what I'm talking about.  The kind of thing that can't ever be taken back or modified.  Hurt feelings for fucking EVER.  None of this half-assed bullshit and passive-aggressive nonsense.  Go for fucking broke, tear the fucking lid off.

Why not?  She's given you the EXCUSE, in your own mind, to say ANYTHING YOU LIKE. 

Well done, that man.  Show Nigel that your frontal cortex doesn't NEED any blood, thank you very much, and that you can TELL HER WHAT.

And if you and her never speak again, or at least are never the same again, well, at least you got to be the big man.  The hero. 

This is fucking awesome.  Are you sure you're not American?`

[The Good Reverend Roger]

THIS IS THE PD WE DEMAND.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

HELLO?  WHERE DID EVERYONE GO?

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

On the other hand, P3nt went through GREAT LENGTHS to make it clear he wasn't trying to target everyone with beliefs when he talked about Faithfools.

Its still not okay. That's all there is to it, as far as I can tell.

Did he? Ill have to reread the thread then. I seem to remember it ending with the sentiment that while religion is retarded he can see why it might be unfair to make fun of religious people because they were probably born into their flavor of delusion and never bothered to question it.

Would you please link to it when you find it? Because if it was that, he's pretty much saying that people like MLK and Gandhi were retarded. I need to see exactly WTF he said before shooting my mouth off. Thanks.

[Ben Shapiro]

So the primates win this round?