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Re: Will the real holistic medicine please stand up?
« Reply #45 on: November 19, 2013, 02:28:38 am »

Damn straight. Though, it seems like your engineering skills usually have some sort of urgency attached due to massive incompetence on the part of your coworkers. :lulz:

Speaking of which, have you brought a radio to Ernie lately?

Naw.  I've been playing nice with him for political reasons.

Anyway, the thing is, people confuse talent, education, experience, and intelligence.

A competent mechanic must be experienced and intelligent.  Education is also important, but experience is most of that education.  This is why apprenticeships are so important.

Doctors must be educated and intelligent.  Experience can only be gained, really, after practice has begun.

Talent is just aptitude, and applies to both equally.

In other words, you can have an intelligent, uneducated person with experience in a field.

You can have an educated idiot with no talent.

Or you can have that rarest of things, a talented, educated, intelligent person with a ton of experience.
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Re: Will the real holistic medicine please stand up?
« Reply #46 on: November 19, 2013, 02:41:36 am »

Damn straight. Though, it seems like your engineering skills usually have some sort of urgency attached due to massive incompetence on the part of your coworkers. :lulz:

Speaking of which, have you brought a radio to Ernie lately?

Naw.  I've been playing nice with him for political reasons.

Anyway, the thing is, people confuse talent, education, experience, and intelligence.

A competent mechanic must be experienced and intelligent.  Education is also important, but experience is most of that education.  This is why apprenticeships are so important.

Doctors must be educated and intelligent.  Experience can only be gained, really, after practice has begun.

Talent is just aptitude, and applies to both equally.

In other words, you can have an intelligent, uneducated person with experience in a field.

You can have an educated idiot with no talent.

Or you can have that rarest of things, a talented, educated, intelligent person with a ton of experience.

A few weeks ago, a friend of mine took a jab at me, Phox, and Coyote for pursuing college education when we decided to call him out on his shit and show his credentials (experience trumps education argument). Dude is also a mechanic who sells insurance on the side. I pointed out that since I'm going into the biology, experience is impossible without the formal training, the internships, etc. so while education may be irrelevant in his field, it is essential in mine. His experience makes him a better mechanic than I. My education makes me a better biologist than him.

Ultimately it was an argument borne out of the fact that he's a former Democrat gone Libertarian telling me that the road maintenance going on right outside my window at midnight was a necessary preventative measure and I decided to laugh at him about that because he hates PPACA and I found that highly ironic.
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Re: Will the real holistic medicine please stand up?
« Reply #47 on: November 19, 2013, 02:45:46 am »
A few weeks ago, a friend of mine took a jab at me, Phox, and Coyote for pursuing college education when we decided to call him out on his shit and show his credentials (experience trumps education argument).

Apples trump oranges!
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Re: Will the real holistic medicine please stand up?
« Reply #48 on: November 19, 2013, 02:47:27 am »
A few weeks ago, a friend of mine took a jab at me, Phox, and Coyote for pursuing college education when we decided to call him out on his shit and show his credentials (experience trumps education argument).

Apples trump oranges!

Exactly.  :lulz:

It's one of those arguments where you get a brief whiff of insecurity.
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Re: Will the real holistic medicine please stand up?
« Reply #49 on: November 19, 2013, 02:49:27 am »
A few weeks ago, a friend of mine took a jab at me, Phox, and Coyote for pursuing college education when we decided to call him out on his shit and show his credentials (experience trumps education argument).

Apples trump oranges!

Exactly.  :lulz:

It's one of those arguments where you get a brief whiff of insecurity.

Yeah, Mike the engineer is good for that, only with the argument reversed.  20 years of experience mean nothing without a graduate degree.
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Re: Will the real holistic medicine please stand up?
« Reply #50 on: November 19, 2013, 02:51:46 am »
A few weeks ago, a friend of mine took a jab at me, Phox, and Coyote for pursuing college education when we decided to call him out on his shit and show his credentials (experience trumps education argument).

Apples trump oranges!

Exactly.  :lulz:

It's one of those arguments where you get a brief whiff of insecurity.

Yeah, Mike the engineer is good for that, only with the argument reversed.  20 years of experience mean nothing without a graduate degree.

Petroleum engineering is one of those things where you'd want to make sure everyone knew what they were doing, what with it being a volatile chemical and having it all done in a horror house with sapphire bits that would make an Assyrian cringe.
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Re: Will the real holistic medicine please stand up?
« Reply #51 on: November 19, 2013, 02:52:39 am »
A few weeks ago, a friend of mine took a jab at me, Phox, and Coyote for pursuing college education when we decided to call him out on his shit and show his credentials (experience trumps education argument).

Apples trump oranges!

Exactly.  :lulz:

It's one of those arguments where you get a brief whiff of insecurity.

Yeah, Mike the engineer is good for that, only with the argument reversed.  20 years of experience mean nothing without a graduate degree.

Petroleum engineering is one of those things where you'd want to make sure everyone knew what they were doing, what with it being a volatile chemical and having it all done in a horror house with sapphire bits that would make an Assyrian cringe.

We don't do petroleum.
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Re: Will the real holistic medicine please stand up?
« Reply #52 on: November 19, 2013, 02:53:08 am »
A few weeks ago, a friend of mine took a jab at me, Phox, and Coyote for pursuing college education when we decided to call him out on his shit and show his credentials (experience trumps education argument).

Apples trump oranges!

Exactly.  :lulz:

It's one of those arguments where you get a brief whiff of insecurity.

Yeah, Mike the engineer is good for that, only with the argument reversed.  20 years of experience mean nothing without a graduate degree.

Petroleum engineering is one of those things where you'd want to make sure everyone knew what they were doing, what with it being a volatile chemical and having it all done in a horror house with sapphire bits that would make an Assyrian cringe.

We don't do petroleum.

I thought you worked for Big Oil?
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Re: Will the real holistic medicine please stand up?
« Reply #53 on: November 19, 2013, 02:53:51 am »
A few weeks ago, a friend of mine took a jab at me, Phox, and Coyote for pursuing college education when we decided to call him out on his shit and show his credentials (experience trumps education argument).

Apples trump oranges!

Exactly.  :lulz:

It's one of those arguments where you get a brief whiff of insecurity.

Yeah, Mike the engineer is good for that, only with the argument reversed.  20 years of experience mean nothing without a graduate degree.

Petroleum engineering is one of those things where you'd want to make sure everyone knew what they were doing, what with it being a volatile chemical and having it all done in a horror house with sapphire bits that would make an Assyrian cringe.

We don't do petroleum.

I thought you worked for Big Oil?

I do, but at a chemical plant.  Think of us as the Igor to the evil madman.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

 "Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
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Re: Will the real holistic medicine please stand up?
« Reply #54 on: November 19, 2013, 02:54:37 am »
A few weeks ago, a friend of mine took a jab at me, Phox, and Coyote for pursuing college education when we decided to call him out on his shit and show his credentials (experience trumps education argument).

Apples trump oranges!

Exactly.  :lulz:

It's one of those arguments where you get a brief whiff of insecurity.

Yeah, Mike the engineer is good for that, only with the argument reversed.  20 years of experience mean nothing without a graduate degree.

Petroleum engineering is one of those things where you'd want to make sure everyone knew what they were doing, what with it being a volatile chemical and having it all done in a horror house with sapphire bits that would make an Assyrian cringe.

We don't do petroleum.

I thought you worked for Big Oil?

I do, but at a chemical plant.  Think of us as the Igor to the evil madman.

Ah. Still stands though. Especially with the nasty sapphire stabby bits.
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« Reply #55 on: November 19, 2013, 02:57:01 am »

Ah. Still stands though. Especially with the nasty sapphire stabby bits.

And horrible Ed-flaying quartz material.  Don't forget that.

I know I never will.  :vom:

And I'm not a squeamish guy.
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Re: Will the real holistic medicine please stand up?
« Reply #56 on: November 19, 2013, 02:58:25 am »

Ah. Still stands though. Especially with the nasty sapphire stabby bits.

And horrible Ed-flaying quartz material.  Don't forget that.

I know I never will.  :vom:

And I'm not a squeamish guy.

I did forget that. Eek.
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