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Q: Was there good music in the 1980s? A: YES.

Started by LMNO, November 18, 2013, 07:56:33 PM

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The Good Reverend Roger

#105
November 23, 2013, 04:55:49 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on November 23, 2013, 04:55:03 AM
"Our Lips Are Sealed" is great. Especially the bridge.

Yes.

What's a bridge?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

#106
November 23, 2013, 05:00:07 AM
The part in the middle of a song that sounds really different than the rest of the song.

In this case, it's when Jane sang, "Hush my darling/Don't you cry..."

The Good Reverend Roger

#107
November 23, 2013, 05:08:34 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on November 23, 2013, 05:00:07 AM
The part in the middle of a song that sounds really different than the rest of the song.

In this case, it's when Jane sang, "Hush my darling/Don't you cry..."

Oh, gotcha.  That's gotta be descended from the blues, I'm thinking.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

#108
November 23, 2013, 05:15:48 AM
May I get pedantic?

Thanks.

In Western Music, it's really common. Back in Ye Olde Klassikal Musik days.  There was a movement between movements that added something new.

You have your narrrative, then you Idea, then anotther narrative, then repeat your idea, then take a moment to comment on your idea, then say your idea twice.  That's a pop song, right there.

The Good Reverend Roger

#109
November 23, 2013, 05:17:50 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on November 23, 2013, 05:15:48 AM
May I get pedantic?

Thanks.

:lulz:

QuoteIn Western Music, it's really common. Back in Ye Olde Klassikal Musik days.  There was a movement between movements that added something new.

You have your narrrative, then you Idea, then anotther narrative, then repeat your idea, then take a moment to comment on your idea, then say your idea twice.  That's a pop song, right there.

I wouldn't recognize a bridge in classical music if you held a gun to my head.

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

#110
November 23, 2013, 05:21:31 AM
Thank goodness I'm in Boston then, with it's draconian gun laws, because I'd MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

The Good Reverend Roger

#111
November 23, 2013, 05:23:32 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on November 23, 2013, 05:21:31 AM
Thank goodness I'm in Boston then, with it's draconian gun laws, because I'd MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

"WHAT'S THE BRIDGE, KENNETH?"

"wat"

"WHAT'S THE FUCKING BRIDGE?"

*bang*
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

#112
November 23, 2013, 05:25:35 AM
A THEN FUCKING B THEN FUCKING A THEN FUCKING B THEN GODDAMN C.


HOW IS THAT SO FUCKING HARD, KENNETH!?



By the way, I love you for the Kenneth reference.

The Good Reverend Roger

#113
November 23, 2013, 05:27:27 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on November 23, 2013, 05:25:35 AM
A THEN FUCKING B THEN FUCKING A THEN FUCKING B THEN GODDAMN C.


HOW IS THAT SO FUCKING HARD, KENNETH!?



By the way, I love you for the Kenneth reference.

It was the first time I looked at a news item and horked coffee out of orifices not designed for horking.

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Dildo Argentino

#114
November 27, 2013, 05:45:03 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on November 20, 2013, 08:52:40 PM
1983

....

But you know what was wonderful about 1983?  A crooner, who had previously worked the lounge scene style with strings and all the rest, got weird.  That's right kids, Tom Waits generously gave us all Swordfishtrombones.  From the opening track, you can tell something's going on here.  All that unusual music that's been bubbling up the last few years seems to be getting processed through a mad scientist who has an unusual sense of songwriting and aesthetics.  And then he brings the groove, and that's it.  He's won everything.  His rhythms are created from some random assortment of leather, wood, and steel, and the harmonies are just off enough to keep things unstable.  And then, when it just can't get any better, he starts riffing and ranting, and you're not sure if you're in the past or the future.  Just to finish you off, he throws in a drunken ballad that's as beautiful as it is sorrowful.

Honestly, if an album like that gets made, I'm good for the rest of the year.  See you all in 1984.

That is 200% right. I would also nominate Zappa's Baby Snakes soundtrack. Great film, great songs.
Not too keen on rigor, myself - reminds me of mortis

LMNO

#115
November 27, 2013, 05:48:38 AM
FUCK ZAPPA. In his denialistic homophobic sexist asshole.

Plus, that motherfucker was the worst composer of the 20th century.



Sorry, Hoops. We're here again.

Dildo Argentino

#116
November 27, 2013, 05:55:04 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on November 27, 2013, 05:48:38 AM
FUCK ZAPPA. In his denialistic homophobic sexist asshole.

Plus, that motherfucker was the worst composer of the 20th century.



Sorry, Hoops. We're here again.

Total control freak, yep. In denial about drugs, yep. Homophobic? Sexist? How so?
Not too keen on rigor, myself - reminds me of mortis

LMNO

#117
November 27, 2013, 01:19:19 PM
How could you listen to Joe's Garage and still find it in yourself to ask that question?



Oh, right.  holist.



Never mind.

hooplala

#118
November 27, 2013, 02:08:27 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on November 27, 2013, 05:48:38 AM
FUCK ZAPPA. In his denialistic homophobic sexist asshole.

Plus, that motherfucker was the worst composer of the 20th century.



Sorry, Hoops. We're here again.


Since Holist approves, I'm now reconsidering my Zappa fandom.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)" — Walt Whitman

Dildo Argentino

#119
November 27, 2013, 04:26:12 PM
"If you were to take all the lyrics I've ever written and analyze how many songs are about `women in demeaning positions,' as opposed to `men in demaning positions' you would find that most of the songs are about stupid men.
The songs I write about women are not gratuitous attacks on them, but statements of fact. The song ``Jewish Princess'' caused the Anti- Defamation League of the B'nai B'rith to complain bitterly and demand an apology. I did not apologize then and refuse to do so now because, unlike `The Unicorn', such creatures do exist - and deserve to be `commemorated' with their own special opus.

The basic function of any ethnic protective PR organization is to do what Congressman Duncan Hunter (R-California) suggested on the `Larry King show' - ``maintain the fiction.'' (He used it in context of protecting the Reagan administration during the Iran-contra scandal, suggesting it was our duty as Americans to support the President by looking the other way.)

Italians have an organization to `maintain the fiction' that no Italians are in the Mafia, nor do they sell drugs while engaging in murder for hire. If you want to believe that, fine - welcome to Fantasy Land. If you want to believe that wrestling is real, go for it - and if you want to believe that women are a wonderful species that: 1 never goes to the toilet; 2 can't possibly do anything wrong; 3 is completely superior to men, then believe it - whatever makes you feel good."

from The Real Frank Zappa Book, Chapter Am I A 'Sexist' - Or What?

I find that persuasive. How about you? Also, I would think you'd agree with quite a lot of the ideology of Joe's Garage (I mean the anti-cenzorship, anti-authoritarian angle and the to me hilarious lampooning of the powers that is the Central Scrutinizer), so what's your problem? Catholic Girls? (must admit, I never liked vol. 2&3, so please mention a more offensive song from vol. 1, if you can.) Or is it the song about VD? But it's all parody, is it not? Frank Zappa was of the opinion, I think, that practically everyone is full of shit, himself nominally included, though actually, the situation was somewhat different, which is, all things considered, pretty... Discordian.  :lol:
Not too keen on rigor, myself - reminds me of mortis
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