Open Bar: ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Thing is, I don't mind being the horrible bastard responsible for everything, but it's just sloppy thinking. 

Roger is in a fight.  Roger must be the responsible party.

Nigel is not in the fight.  Nigel must also be at fault.

In neither case is there any evidence provided in the initial assumption to justify the conclusion.  And that's not parody.  Most times, that's really as far as it goes.

And there IS a small subset of people that decide that Nigel and/or me are AWFUL PEOPLE, and they have a few traits in common.

1.  Blow up for any reason or no reason at all.  Asking Khara what day of the week it was could accomplish this.

2.  Blame Nigel and/or Roger, even if they weren't involved in the first place.  This has happened to me, and it happened - in this case - to Nigel.

3.  Flounce.

4.  Return from flounce, say more nasty shit, flounce again.

5.  Return to step 1.

People who fall into this rarely ever work their way out of it.  Whatever it is that makes them crazy in the first place prevents them from getting better.  Khara, Charley, Nigel, Captain Utopia, Lumber Jim, etc.

Well. If im starting to fall into this pattern i apologize to both of you.

No, I don't think you do.  What you did was pick sides in a fight that you didn't understand.  That's not particularly offensive, in hindsight, but it isn't wise.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Thing is, I don't mind being the horrible bastard responsible for everything, but it's just sloppy thinking. 

Roger is in a fight.  Roger must be the responsible party.

Nigel is not in the fight.  Nigel must also be at fault.

In neither case is there any evidence provided in the initial assumption to justify the conclusion.  And that's not parody.  Most times, that's really as far as it goes.

And there IS a small subset of people that decide that Nigel and/or me are AWFUL PEOPLE, and they have a few traits in common.

1.  Blow up for any reason or no reason at all.  Asking Khara what day of the week it was could accomplish this.

2.  Blame Nigel and/or Roger, even if they weren't involved in the first place.  This has happened to me, and it happened - in this case - to Nigel.

3.  Flounce.

4.  Return from flounce, say more nasty shit, flounce again.

5.  Return to step 1.

People who fall into this rarely ever work their way out of it.  Whatever it is that makes them crazy in the first place prevents them from getting better.  Khara, Charley, Nigel, Captain Utopia, Lumber Jim, etc.

Well. If im starting to fall into this pattern i apologize to both of you.

No, I don't think you do.  What you did was pick sides in a fight that you didn't understand.  That's not particularly offensive, in hindsight, but it isn't wise.

Actually i do. As nigel said it was none of my business to begin with even if i did fully understand it. She was right and i apologize for that angle. If i still needed to get involved i should have pmed you about it instead of getting mad at you right there so i apologize for that as well. And really i should apologize to coyote for dragging him back into it because thats certainly not helping him any either.

[LMNO]

Something's bothering Alty, and something about Nigel's thread seemed to set him off. 

Note the two are not substantially related.  Nigel did not set him off, and her thread is not to "blame".  I get the feeling anything that looked at him sideways would have done it; it's just that Nigel's 'short, sharp shock' post was the one that happened to be there at the time.

[East Coast Hustle]

Y'know, with the notable exceptions of Cain and Bear, I think just about everyone ITT has sounded like a cassowary receiving a steam-pipe enema for the last 4 or 5 pages days.

[East Coast Hustle]

And I'm not excluding myself from that. I have been a little...touchy lately. But I do try to have the good grace to not bring it here. but you fuckers are making it tough.

[Cain]

I dunno, I've often thought self-promotion and whining about Youtube, if it were to ever have a sound, would sound like like a cassowary receiving a steam-pipe enema.

But only a small one.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Something's bothering Alty, and something about Nigel's thread seemed to set him off. 

Note the two are not substantially related.  Nigel did not set him off, and her thread is not to "blame".  I get the feeling anything that looked at him sideways would have done it; it's just that Nigel's 'short, sharp shock' post was the one that happened to be there at the time.

Point. Correlation and causation.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

I dunno, I've often thought self-promotion and whining about Youtube, if it were to ever have a sound, would sound like like a cassowary receiving a steam-pipe enema.

But only a small one.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Y'know, with the notable exceptions of Cain and Bear, I think just about everyone ITT has sounded like a cassowary receiving a steam-pipe enema for the last 4 or 5 pages days.

Naw, CPD was okay.  So was QG.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Something's bothering Alty, and something about Nigel's thread seemed to set him off. 

Note the two are not substantially related.  Nigel did not set him off, and her thread is not to "blame".  I get the feeling anything that looked at him sideways would have done it; it's just that Nigel's 'short, sharp shock' post was the one that happened to be there at the time.

This.

Same with Coyote.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Thing is, I don't mind being the horrible bastard responsible for everything, but it's just sloppy thinking. 

Roger is in a fight.  Roger must be the responsible party.

Nigel is not in the fight.  Nigel must also be at fault.

In neither case is there any evidence provided in the initial assumption to justify the conclusion.  And that's not parody.  Most times, that's really as far as it goes.

And there IS a small subset of people that decide that Nigel and/or me are AWFUL PEOPLE, and they have a few traits in common.

1.  Blow up for any reason or no reason at all.  Asking Khara what day of the week it was could accomplish this.

2.  Blame Nigel and/or Roger, even if they weren't involved in the first place.  This has happened to me, and it happened - in this case - to Nigel.

3.  Flounce.

4.  Return from flounce, say more nasty shit, flounce again.

5.  Return to step 1.

People who fall into this rarely ever work their way out of it.  Whatever it is that makes them crazy in the first place prevents them from getting better.  Khara, Charley, Nigel, Captain Utopia, Lumber Jim, etc.

Well. If im starting to fall into this pattern i apologize to both of you.

No, I don't think you do.  What you did was pick sides in a fight that you didn't understand.  That's not particularly offensive, in hindsight, but it isn't wise.

Wait did you mean i dont fall into the pattern? Im a bit sleep deprived...

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Thing is, I don't mind being the horrible bastard responsible for everything, but it's just sloppy thinking. 

Roger is in a fight.  Roger must be the responsible party.

Nigel is not in the fight.  Nigel must also be at fault.

In neither case is there any evidence provided in the initial assumption to justify the conclusion.  And that's not parody.  Most times, that's really as far as it goes.

And there IS a small subset of people that decide that Nigel and/or me are AWFUL PEOPLE, and they have a few traits in common.

1.  Blow up for any reason or no reason at all.  Asking Khara what day of the week it was could accomplish this.

2.  Blame Nigel and/or Roger, even if they weren't involved in the first place.  This has happened to me, and it happened - in this case - to Nigel.

3.  Flounce.

4.  Return from flounce, say more nasty shit, flounce again.

5.  Return to step 1.

People who fall into this rarely ever work their way out of it.  Whatever it is that makes them crazy in the first place prevents them from getting better.  Khara, Charley, Nigel, Captain Utopia, Lumber Jim, etc.

Well. If im starting to fall into this pattern i apologize to both of you.

No, I don't think you do.  What you did was pick sides in a fight that you didn't nobody understands.  That's not particularly offensive, in hindsight, but it isn't wise.

Fixed that for you. Because the thing is, it's an almost entirely one-sided fight that makes no sense anywhere outside of Coyote's head. Which is another reason I am not very happy about the assumption that somehow I MADE IT HAPPEN. I didn't snap whatever snapped in Coyote's head; I didn't make him crazy. Whatever happened there happened without a whole lot of input from me, and that's why I just put him on ignore. It isn't, actually, my fight, and I'm pretty pissed, after a long slow simmer, that Twid keeps bringing it up as if I'm supposed to do something different to make it better.

I CANNOT FIX YOUR FRIEND'S CRAZY, TWID. I DIDN'T DO IT AND I CAN'T FIX IT, AND YOU'RE A FUCKING ASSHOLE FOR TRYING TO MAKE ME OUT TO BE A PARTICIPANT IN HIS CRAZY ABUSIVE BEHAVIOR.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

WTF happened?? Nobody knows! Therefore, blame Nigel and Roger! Thanks, Twid. Thanks a ton.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Y'know, with the notable exceptions of Cain and Bear, I think just about everyone ITT has sounded like a cassowary receiving a steam-pipe enema for the last 4 or 5 pages days.

Gee, yeah, thanks. Because obviously it makes perfect sense that if somebody's mad at me for something I didn't do, I am equally at fault.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Something's bothering Alty, and something about Nigel's thread seemed to set him off. 

Note the two are not substantially related.  Nigel did not set him off, and her thread is not to "blame".  I get the feeling anything that looked at him sideways would have done it; it's just that Nigel's 'short, sharp shock' post was the one that happened to be there at the time.

What's this about Alty?