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My harrowing experiances with Scientology
« on: December 31, 2013, 11:16:07 pm »
So, I was poking around the philosophy section as I was want to do when I was nineteen and I came across the book Dianetics. For some bizarre reason I picked it up and took it home and read it. And damn if it didn't make a little sense to me.So I sent away for the little test thingie in the back of the book and guess what? I needed their help. So I was in Baltimore at the time and the nearest center was in DC...so I got my girlfriend to take me up there (I didn't drive).The place was pretty much empty and they were playing the batman soundtrack in what I guess was the lobby. I took the intro course for $100. For that you got a book of tapes of L Ron yammering on in lectures which you were encouraged to listen to at your leisure. And then came the auditing. I was paired off with a middle aged woman with an air of desperation about her. I was required to pick a traumatic event and go over that from beginning to end over and over.I picked my girlfriends dog getting hit by a car, because i couldn't really think of anything else. Well after a couple trips up there I got tired or bored of it and quit. About the same time my parents received a whole gigantic stack of poorly xeroxed documents and articles explaining how evil the whole thing was, but I never really judged them to harshly. To this day, some twenty years, later I still receive calls and mail from them. This is like twenty years later. Oh and they made me sign something that said I could get my money back if I didn't badmouth them. Oh and all that literature that my folks gave me was put together by the Cult Awareness Network or something. The Scientologists now run it.
But I was definitely duped, man, for awhile there I bought into the whole thing and I believe this is the longest thing I've ever written on the internet.

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Re: My harrowing experiances with Scientology
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2013, 11:46:58 pm »
My brother's a Scientologist. Ask me anything.

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Re: My harrowing experiances with Scientology
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2013, 11:51:10 pm »
Oh, wow. Has he, like, abandoned the family or anything? How long has he been in? Have you or your family tried to get him out?

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Re: My harrowing experiances with Scientology
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2014, 09:05:19 am »
[...] About the same time my parents received a whole gigantic stack of poorly xeroxed documents and articles explaining how evil the whole thing was, but I never really judged them to harshly. [...] Oh and all that literature that my folks gave me was put together by the Cult Awareness Network or something. The Scientologists now run it.

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
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Re: My harrowing experiances with Scientology
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2014, 01:43:01 am »
[...] About the same time my parents received a whole gigantic stack of poorly xeroxed documents and articles explaining how evil the whole thing was, but I never really judged them to harshly. [...] Oh and all that literature that my folks gave me was put together by the Cult Awareness Network or something. The Scientologists now run it.

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Wh..what? That was supposed to be chilling like a brisk glass of iced tea, not lulzy.

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Re: My harrowing experiances with Scientology
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2014, 03:06:34 am »
[...] About the same time my parents received a whole gigantic stack of poorly xeroxed documents and articles explaining how evil the whole thing was, but I never really judged them to harshly. [...] Oh and all that literature that my folks gave me was put together by the Cult Awareness Network or something. The Scientologists now run it.

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Wh..what? That was supposed to be chilling like a brisk glass of iced tea, not lulzy.

But it's hilarious!
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”


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Re: My harrowing experiances with Scientology
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2014, 07:47:06 am »
[...] About the same time my parents received a whole gigantic stack of poorly xeroxed documents and articles explaining how evil the whole thing was, but I never really judged them to harshly. [...] Oh and all that literature that my folks gave me was put together by the Cult Awareness Network or something. The Scientologists now run it.

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Wh..what? That was supposed to be chilling like a brisk glass of iced tea, not lulzy.

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Re: My harrowing experiances with Scientology
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2014, 11:34:55 am »
We have a concept here called "horrormirth".  It's when you laugh til you can't stop screaming.

Hah. I'm glad I stumbled upon this word, as it is my natural state of being. My reaction to life..

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Re: My harrowing experiances with Scientology
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2014, 03:09:46 pm »
Oh, wow. Has he, like, abandoned the family or anything? How long has he been in? Have you or your family tried to get him out?

There has been no disconnection; however, the family knows what that is, and while dissaproving of Scientology, isn't overly antagonistic about that.

He's been in for about a decade.

When he started out, we were all against it.  My dad was a physicist, and he abhorred the use of "science" in a faith-based system that used correlation as causation.


However, my brother was in pretty bad shape before he found the Church -- a self-medicating bipolar sufferer, prone to psychotic breaks, with poor social skills.  Scientology gave him structure and a support group, and now he's happier than I've ever seen him.  He's stuck to the lower levels of the program, as he's never been interested in theology or philosophy, and doesn't care about Xenu, Thetans, or nuclear bombs thrown into volcanos.  He was taught game rules that foster communication and guide social interactions, along with some vague notions of how to remedy certain mental trauma.

I still think he spends too much time and money on the Church, but he's certainly not a victim.

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Re: My harrowing experiances with Scientology
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2014, 06:23:02 pm »
Oh, wow. Has he, like, abandoned the family or anything? How long has he been in? Have you or your family tried to get him out?

There has been no disconnection; however, the family knows what that is, and while dissaproving of Scientology, isn't overly antagonistic about that.

He's been in for about a decade.

When he started out, we were all against it.  My dad was a physicist, and he abhorred the use of "science" in a faith-based system that used correlation as causation.


However, my brother was in pretty bad shape before he found the Church -- a self-medicating bipolar sufferer, prone to psychotic breaks, with poor social skills.  Scientology gave him structure and a support group, and now he's happier than I've ever seen him.  He's stuck to the lower levels of the program, as he's never been interested in theology or philosophy, and doesn't care about Xenu, Thetans, or nuclear bombs thrown into volcanos.  He was taught game rules that foster communication and guide social interactions, along with some vague notions of how to remedy certain mental trauma.

I still think he spends too much time and money on the Church, but he's certainly not a victim.
Huh, interesting. Is this maybe a case of a broken clock being right twice a day?
Either way, I am happy your brother is ok.
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Re: My harrowing experiances with Scientology
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2014, 06:27:32 pm »
In my opinion it's about not every belief system works for everyone.  Much like you can't make blanket assumptions about all Christians, you can't make blanket assumptions about all Scientologists.  He was in a bad place, found something that works for him, and is stable enough not to go completely nutty about it.

I will say, I've heard some really disturbing things about SeaOrg, like "child labor camps in the desert" disturbing, and I have a feeling my brother is turning a blind eye to that, which is really too bad.

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Re: My harrowing experiances with Scientology
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2014, 06:58:07 pm »
In my opinion it's about not every belief system works for everyone.  Much like you can't make blanket assumptions about all Christians, you can't make blanket assumptions about all Scientologists.  He was in a bad place, found something that works for him, and is stable enough not to go completely nutty about it.

I will say, I've heard some really disturbing things about SeaOrg, like "child labor camps in the desert" disturbing, and I have a feeling my brother is turning a blind eye to that, which is really too bad.

I think that one critical difference in the comparison between Christianity and Scientology is that Christianity has many sects and many hierarchies, and can even be practiced with no hierarchy at all, whereas Scientology has one sect and one hierarchy, without which it cannot be practiced.

That said, I'm glad it's working for your brother.
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”


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Re: My harrowing experiances with Scientology
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2014, 07:00:10 pm »
That's a good point.

If I said, "not all Catholics can be painted with the same brush," would that work better?

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Re: My harrowing experiances with Scientology
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2014, 07:09:32 pm »
That's a good point.

If I said, "not all Catholics can be painted with the same brush," would that work better?

Yeah, that probably is a better simile.
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Re: My harrowing experiances with Scientology
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2014, 07:15:27 pm »
Either way, the point is the same.  It works for some people, it doesn't work for others, and it fucks up a lot of people for various reasons, much like other belief systems.

I have a lot of problems with it, but to be brutally honest, I'd probably have problems with him deciding to become a born-again evangelical Christian, too.

When a person is in a deep crisis, they're usually willing to grab any hand that's offered without too much critical thinking before or after they're helped up.