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[Cardinal Pizza Deliverance.]

They just called the guy who was behind me in line.

Raise all manner of hell.

It turns out that not only am I graduating this term, but I'm accidentally graduating with two degrees. 

That 1 credit yoga class that my friend Miz B talked me into at the last possible minute? Well, it turns out that all these random classes that I took while I was flailing around, before I decided I need to major in biology, when you combine them with the classes I'm taking for my AA Oregon transfer degree, they added up to be 1 credit shy of an AS. 1... PE credit.

So I am graduating with an AA and an AS in March.

I'm starting to be kind of superstitious about Miz B. I don't know if you recall, but she was my assistant and right-hand woman during my most profitable years of beadmaking. Everything I do that she's involved in turns out MUCH better than anticipated.

Congrats! That's awesome.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

They just called the guy who was behind me in line.

Raise all manner of hell.

It turns out that not only am I graduating this term, but I'm accidentally graduating with two degrees. 

That 1 credit yoga class that my friend Miz B talked me into at the last possible minute? Well, it turns out that all these random classes that I took while I was flailing around, before I decided I need to major in biology, when you combine them with the classes I'm taking for my AA Oregon transfer degree, they added up to be 1 credit shy of an AS. 1... PE credit.

So I am graduating with an AA and an AS in March.

I'm starting to be kind of superstitious about Miz B. I don't know if you recall, but she was my assistant and right-hand woman during my most profitable years of beadmaking. Everything I do that she's involved in turns out MUCH better than anticipated.

Congrats! That's awesome.

Thanks! It went by like nothing doing. I used to keep this list on my wall, of the classes I needed to take to finish my AA... and this term I have no list. It was so long! And now it's gone!

It makes me wish I'd done it sooner, but I'm sticking to a strict no-regrets policy. 

[Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ]

I still haven't managed to graduate after 6 years because I totally suck. Also art school made me hate art. I think I will graduate next spring tho finally...I hope

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I still haven't managed to graduate after 6 years because I totally suck. Also art school made me hate art. I think I will graduate next spring tho finally...I hope

Hehe...Fred, I haven't graduated after 27 years.  Just so you know.

And I worry that art school will make my daughter hate art.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I still haven't managed to graduate after 6 years because I totally suck. Also art school made me hate art. I think I will graduate next spring tho finally...I hope

You will do it! And if you start to feel discouraged, just remember that you're still 17 years ahead of me.

[Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ]

I still haven't managed to graduate after 6 years because I totally suck. Also art school made me hate art. I think I will graduate next spring tho finally...I hope

Hehe...Fred, I haven't graduated after 27 years.  Just so you know.

And I worry that art school will make my daughter hate art.

I would just quit now and find a job if I could but I feel obligated to finish because I took out so many loans already. I'd still have to pay them off and not have a degree to show for it.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I am interested in the art school making a person hate art conversation, because EFO is a remarkable and driven artist. However, as of age 16, she wants to get her degree in psychology, so maybe that will be a non-issue.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

It's the home stretch, after all.  You just have to get serious.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I am interested in the art school making a person hate art conversation, because EFO is a remarkable and driven artist. However, as of age 16, she wants to get her degree in psychology, so maybe that will be a non-issue.

It's what electives are for, I suppose.  There are some classes critical for an artist, but most artists I know that make a living - or most of a living at it - do not have an art degree.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I still haven't managed to graduate after 6 years because I totally suck. Also art school made me hate art. I think I will graduate next spring tho finally...I hope

Hehe...Fred, I haven't graduated after 27 years.  Just so you know.

And I worry that art school will make my daughter hate art.

I would just quit now and find a job if I could but I feel obligated to finish because I took out so many loans already. I'd still have to pay them off and not have a degree to show for it.

Do you have the option of changing your degree?

One of my dear friends was an art major at Sarah Lawrence, ended up burning out/dropping out and when she took classes at PSU she took chemistry, ended up absolutely loving it and is now a chemistry PhD.

[Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ]

I still haven't managed to graduate after 6 years because I totally suck. Also art school made me hate art. I think I will graduate next spring tho finally...I hope

You will do it! And if you start to feel discouraged, just remember that you're still 17 years ahead of me.

Yeah but I have been in school for the entire 6 years for a 4 year degree haha ugh. I'm just a terrible student. I don't even know how to be a good student I always fuck up somehow.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I still haven't managed to graduate after 6 years because I totally suck. Also art school made me hate art. I think I will graduate next spring tho finally...I hope

Hehe...Fred, I haven't graduated after 27 years.  Just so you know.

And I worry that art school will make my daughter hate art.

I would just quit now and find a job if I could but I feel obligated to finish because I took out so many loans already. I'd still have to pay them off and not have a degree to show for it.

So finish.  You're not stupid by any means, so it isn't beyond your ability.

[Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ]

I still haven't managed to graduate after 6 years because I totally suck. Also art school made me hate art. I think I will graduate next spring tho finally...I hope

Hehe...Fred, I haven't graduated after 27 years.  Just so you know.

And I worry that art school will make my daughter hate art.

I would just quit now and find a job if I could but I feel obligated to finish because I took out so many loans already. I'd still have to pay them off and not have a degree to show for it.

Do you have the option of changing your degree?

One of my dear friends was an art major at Sarah Lawrence, ended up burning out/dropping out and when she took classes at PSU she took chemistry, ended up absolutely loving it and is now a chemistry PhD.

Sticking with art will get me out the quickest. I tried fashion before switching back to art. I like my illustration program at my first school but i fucked up there and had to leave.
I don't know what I would switch to I'm not good at anything.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

From what I have observed, the barriers to graduating are, in order:

1.  A family (this is what got me).
2.  Money.
3.  Beer.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I am interested in the art school making a person hate art conversation, because EFO is a remarkable and driven artist. However, as of age 16, she wants to get her degree in psychology, so maybe that will be a non-issue.

It's what electives are for, I suppose.  There are some classes critical for an artist, but most artists I know that make a living - or most of a living at it - do not have an art degree.

Some of my career artist friends do, some don't. It's pretty mixed. One of 'em, who has an art degree but has been making a living as a carpenter for the last 20 years, just wild-haired hisself into an art and craft graduate program and intends to teach art for the rest of his life. I think he's going to do well at it.