Suu, your Facebook friends are retards.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I haven't been following this story so I wasn't even aware of the oxygen deprivation aspect until Roger mentioned it to me yesterday. That makes it all the more horrific that the hospital wants to use this woman's corpse as an incubator to gestate a fetus that has suffered so much brain damage that it won't be able to survive without life support after it's born. WTF. Hey guy, your wife is dead so what we were thinking was forcing her body to carry your baby to term so you can watch it die too. Cool?

[Freeky]

It's awful, the whole thing.   

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I have no idea how to paste with this damn thing.
http://www.medpagetoday.com/OBGYN/Pregnancy/43736
Oh here.

Hopefully the end result of this is that the life support when pregnant law will be struck down. It's a terrible law.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

She was only 14 weeks along when she died. Under the law, even if she hasn't known she was pregnant yet, if she was only two weeks, if they discovered it when she was in the hospital they would have kept her on life support. That's so fucked up. It has nothing to do with making it the father's choice, that's a red herring.

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She was only 14 weeks along when she died. Under the law, even if she hasn't known she was pregnant yet, if she was only two weeks, if they discovered it when she was in the hospital they would have kept her on life support. That's so fucked up. It has nothing to do with making it the father's choice, that's a red herring.

I just wish that this reverence for human life extended beyond the womb.

[Suu]

I haven't been following this story so I wasn't even aware of the oxygen deprivation aspect until Roger mentioned it to me yesterday. That makes it all the more horrific that the hospital wants to use this woman's corpse as an incubator to gestate a fetus that has suffered so much brain damage that it won't be able to survive without life support after it's born. WTF. Hey guy, your wife is dead so what we were thinking was forcing her body to carry your baby to term so you can watch it die too. Cool?

And, you know, send him the bills for it afterwards. This is really the gift that keeps on giving.

[LMNO]

TWO WEEKS?

Ah, context. I've had a couple of two week old kids. It's fucking horrifying and traumatic, but they weren't goddamn BABIES.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

2 weeks?  How did they even see it?

Also, the brain damage thing, alongside ECH's point, has sold me.

[Suu]

Nigel was just making a comparison. She was 14 weeks pregnant when she died, and has been like this now for 6 weeks, I believe. Even at 20 weeks I don't believe a child is viable outside of the womb, especially if it actually has a working brain at all.

[Left]

Nigel was just making a comparison. She was 14 weeks pregnant when she died, and has been like this now for 6 weeks, I believe. Even at 20 weeks I don't believe a child is viable outside of the womb, especially if it actually has a working brain at all.

IIRC, the most premature infant to have survived so far was born at 26 weeks.  Survival's far more likely with 30 weeks of gestation.

*mutters something about catastrophic fetal anencephaly *.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

2 weeks?  How did they even see it?

Also, the brain damage thing, alongside ECH's point, has sold me.

I'm saying that the law doesn't allow for a pregnant woman to be removed from life support at any stage. At two weeks pregnancy can be detected by blood or urine test.

It's not like a woman is showing at 14 weeks, so they had to have either told the hospital, or the hospital ran a pregnancy test, which is standard procedure for any female admitted to a hospital.

[Cardinal Pizza Deliverance.]

This whole thing was off from the start.

The first report I saw was the father making statements about his wife's DNR and how she'd been oxygen deprived for an undetermined amount of time and so the baby was probably already brain-dead as well. But the hospital wouldn't remove her from life support.

Then I heard the wife didn't actually HAVE a DNR, they'd just 'talked about it a lot'.

Then I heard that there HAD been a DNR, it just 'got lost in the paperwork shuffle'.

So now I'm not sure what the hell is going on except there's a corpse being used as an easy bake oven for a zombie-meat cupcake.

The law is fucked up. That's the only clear thing I've got. It also makes me want to get my uterus yanked and have a DNR established yesterday.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Yeah. Uterus-as-a-club-for-Texas-legislators-to-beat-the-fuck-out-of-people-with does sound like something that has to go. 

[Left]

The law is fucked up. That's the only clear thing I've got. It also makes me want to get my uterus yanked and have a DNR established yesterday.

DNR orders, I understand, are hard to get enforced. 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barron-h-lerner/resucitation_b_1322675.html

...I dunno, though.

That article talks about giving physicians more authority to decide when and when not to resuscitate, which I'm not thinking is a good idea either. 
Advocating for a DNR for a given patient is one thing, applying a DNR against patient wishes is another entirely...and I wonder at what point the person's insurance coverage comes into the picture in all that?
Prolly right up front.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

This whole thing was off from the start.

The first report I saw was the father making statements about his wife's DNR and how she'd been oxygen deprived for an undetermined amount of time and so the baby was probably already brain-dead as well. But the hospital wouldn't remove her from life support.

Then I heard the wife didn't actually HAVE a DNR, they'd just 'talked about it a lot'.

Then I heard that there HAD been a DNR, it just 'got lost in the paperwork shuffle'.

So now I'm not sure what the hell is going on except there's a corpse being used as an easy bake oven for a zombie-meat cupcake.

The law is fucked up. That's the only clear thing I've got. It also makes me want to get my uterus yanked and have a DNR established yesterday.

The article I linked said that there was one, but it hadn't been updated since she became pregnant.