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Started by The Good Reverend Roger, January 17, 2014, 07:08:10 PM

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The Good Reverend Roger

January 17, 2014, 07:08:10 PM
http://www.northforkvue.com/health/40522/after-dupont-c8-water-contamination-can-ohio-and-west-virginia-endure-another-toxic-chemical-spill/

The tanks haven't been inspected since 1991.

There was insufficient secondary containment, and no tertiary containment.  The plant manager and his boss both belong in a prison cell.

Oh, and...

"We have enough regulation"
- John Boehner

Fuck you, John.  Right in the earhole.  Deregulation kills, you sanctimonious bastard.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Suu

#1
January 17, 2014, 07:40:50 PM
"But if we just privatize everything, this wouldn't happen. This is proof we don't need the EPA." - Librarians Libertarians.
Sovereign Episkopos-Princess Kaousuu; Esq., Battle Nun, Bene Gesserit.
Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

The Good Reverend Roger

#2
January 17, 2014, 07:43:33 PM
Quote from: The Suu on January 17, 2014, 07:40:50 PM
"But if we just privatize everything, this wouldn't happen. This is proof we don't need the EPA." - Librarians Libertarians.

Everyone has this view of the EPA as omnipresent, jackbooted thugs who wander around trying to shut plants down.

Fact is, they are understaffed, underfunded, and can usually only react to a disaster...Instead of, you know, PREVENTING THEM.

And those right wing assboogers who think that regulation strangles business?  HOW MUCH BUSINESS ARE THEY DOING IN WEST, TEXAS THESE DAYS?  Oh, yeah.  None.  Because they're ALL DEAD.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

#3
January 17, 2014, 07:50:39 PM
I can't stand people who say that if left alone, companies would self-regulate, because rational best interest.


LET THE RECORD SHOW OTHERWISE.

The Good Reverend Roger

#4
January 17, 2014, 07:52:54 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 17, 2014, 07:50:39 PM
I can't stand people who say that if left alone, companies would self-regulate, because rational best interest.


LET THE RECORD SHOW OTHERWISE.

Companies ARE left alone.  All the fucking time.  And they very, very rarely self-regulate.

My company does, but not for benevolent reasons.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Suu

#5
January 17, 2014, 07:54:22 PM
They've clearly been self-regulating since 1991.
Sovereign Episkopos-Princess Kaousuu; Esq., Battle Nun, Bene Gesserit.
Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

The Johnny

#6
January 17, 2014, 08:00:31 PM

It's just human nature, to try to cut corners to be more "efficient"...

But what NO ONE seems to notice is that there's a difference between true efficiency and heuristics and just half-assing everything.

I work in the social sciences, and that might not lead directly to deaths, but it leads to prejudice and misconceptions which at some point or another do cost lives - we call this negligence.

Now, in the engineerings/industries and etc, the negligence is more direct to deaths.

So we're surrounded by lazy, greedy, cheap and negligent fucks.  :evilmad:
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The Good Reverend Roger

#7
January 17, 2014, 08:02:24 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on January 17, 2014, 08:00:31 PM

It's just human nature, to try to cut corners to be more "efficient"...

But what NO ONE seems to notice is that there's a difference between true efficiency and heuristics and just half-assing everything.

THIS.  It's cheaper, in the medium & long term, to do things properly.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

#8
January 17, 2014, 08:15:26 PM
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

#9
January 17, 2014, 08:17:30 PM
"Now, let's re-incorporate into a new company, and get back to it!"

The Good Reverend Roger

#10
January 17, 2014, 08:24:02 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 17, 2014, 08:17:30 PM
"Now, let's re-incorporate into a new company, and get back to it!"

...Said every coal mining corporation, ever.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cain

#11
January 17, 2014, 08:28:51 PM
Hey now, downsizing the Environment Agency, the UK equivalent of the EPA, has done wonders for England's economic performance.









Oh.  Well, nevermind.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#12
January 17, 2014, 10:39:02 PM
FFS.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

Pergamos

#13
January 18, 2014, 12:07:01 AM
I think the problem is more a lack of enforcement than a lack of regulations.  As has been said, the EPA is underfunded and understaffed.

Reginald Ret

#14
January 18, 2014, 12:42:09 AM
Look people, it is not hard. You can't trust government but you can trust them to keep corporations from getting too powerful. If you are in an arena with Tiger and Bear, step one is to get Tiger and Bear to start fighting eachother.
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