Machete Terror? '

[P3nT4gR4m]

Whole case buried under a steaming pile of official secrets bullshit in 3...2...1...

[Cain]

I'd never even heard of al-Muhajiroun before. Interesting stuff, Cain!

At the moment, they're run by media friendly nutcase Anjem Choudary, who, if you're in any way familiar with the UK extremist Islamic scene, you will have heard of.

Choudary is very, very good at drawing media attention to himself.  The tabloids villify him, and the major press invite him onto panels and into talks.  In fact, Choudary's access to programs like, for example, Channel 4 news, is nothing less than extraordinary in a country which, once upon a time, refused to allow members of the PIRA to have their messages broadcast.

[EK WAFFLR]

I'd never even heard of al-Muhajiroun before. Interesting stuff, Cain!

At the moment, they're run by media friendly nutcase Anjem Choudary, who, if you're in any way familiar with the UK extremist Islamic scene, you will have heard of.

Choudary is very, very good at drawing media attention to himself.  The tabloids villify him, and the major press invite him onto panels and into talks.  In fact, Choudary's access to programs like, for example, Channel 4 news, is nothing less than extraordinary in a country which, once upon a time, refused to allow members of the PIRA to have their messages broadcast.

I know of Choudary. I had no idea of his media whoring levels, though. This might be, in part, due to me not watching television.

[Cain]

Yeah, though he gets his fair share of press attention, too.  I wouldn't blame you for missing the majority of it, since it mostly consists of equally nutty commentary from The Sun.

[EK WAFFLR]

Yeah, though he gets his fair share of press attention, too.  I wouldn't blame you for missing the majority of it, since it mostly consists of equally nutty commentary from The Sun.

I don't think I've ever read The Sun.

[Cain]

One doesn't read The Sun.  One looks at Page 3 of The Sun, and absorbs the general tenor of the paper through pictures.

[EK WAFFLR]

One doesn't read The Sun.  One looks at Page 3 of The Sun, and absorbs the general tenor of the paper through pictures.

Oh, it's one of those papers.

[Junkenstein]

Clusterfuck warming up nicely:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22748021

The two men accused of murdering soldier Lee Rigby have both been remanded in custody after making separate court appearances.

Michael Adebolajo, 28, appeared before Westminster magistrates holding a copy of the Koran and stating he wished to be known as Mujahid Abu Hamza.

I'm sure the name bears no significance at all and will not come up in the trial at any point.

He was also charged with the attempted murder of two police officers and possession of a firearm, a 9.4mm KNIL Model 91 revolver.

Flanked by two plain-clothes police officers and a prison guard, Mr Adebolajo appeared in court on Monday with his lower left arm in a cast.

He was wearing a white t-shirt and white trousers and blew a kiss to a man in the public gallery before both pointed to the sky.

Mr Adebolajo told the bench he wanted to be known as Mujahid Abu Hamza, and his barrister referred to him by that name.

When he was asked to stand, he said: "May I ask why? May I ask why?" When told it was customary, he replied: "I want to sit."

At the end of the hearing, he told Deputy Chief Magistrate Emma Arbuthnot: "I would like to alleviate the pain, if I may."

He then kissed the Koran and raised his arm into the air.

Can you say "Daring the judge to find him in contempt"? I can.

Mr Adebowale, of Greenwich, south-east London, who spent six days in hospital, was remanded in custody by Westminster Magistrates' Court last Thursday.

He also faces the same firearms charge as Mr Adebolajo.

During the hearing on Monday, at which he appeared via video link from Belmarsh Prison, he spoke only to confirm his name.

Strikes me as a little odd. I think this guy may turn out to be the more interesting of the two. No real reason, just a hunch.

[Cain]

Well, looks like the EDL firebombed a mosque 20 minutes up the road from me.

Right-wing English Defence League denies responsibility as neighbours report explosion in early hours

Counter-terrorism police are investigating a fire that destroyed an Islamic community centre in north London after confirming that graffiti linked to a far-right group had been daubed on the outside of the building.

Amid fears of reprisals following the murder of Drummer Lee Rigby in Woolwich, south-east London, specialist officers from the Metropolitan police's counter-terrorism command took charge of the investigation into the suspected arson attack at the centre in Muswell Hill.

Police said graffiti reading "EDL" – believed to stand for the English Defence League – was found on the outside of the building, while neighbours reported hearing an explosion in the early hours of Wednesday morning.

Note, actual CT police officers getting involved.  That means someone is actually taking this seriously, which is amazing for terrorism potentially committed by white people without Irish accents.

[EK WAFFLR]

but are they calling it terrorism, or something else?

[Cain]

Still at the stage of investigating whether the fire was suspicious.  But, well, you don't use counter-terrorism police if you suspect an accidental fire.

[Junkenstein]

I've heard "Domestic Extremism" thrown around recently. That seems to be the phrase of choice for white non-Irish idiots.
Related:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22795887

Six men who planned a terror attack on an English Defence League rally could have sparked a "spiral of violence and terror", a court has heard.

The plot failed when the men arrived at the event last June two hours too late.

Omar Mohammed Khan, Mohammed Hasseen, Anzal Hussain, Mohammed Saud, Zohaib Ahmed and Jewel Uddin, all from the West Midlands, were in court at the start of a two-day sentencing hearing.

They have already been warned to expect "significant" time in jail.

Five of the six would-be attackers were caught by chance when traffic police stopped their uninsured car - after they had turned back to head home because the EDL rally in Dewsbury, West Yorkshire had finished early.

I'd guess this is feeding into the overall EDL activity, to be honest i'd completely forgotten about the event.

The amount of racist shit going around here is pretty fucking sickening. I really wish I was surprised.

[Junkenstein]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23099824

The two men accused of murdering soldier Lee Rigby will stand trial on 18 November, it has been decided at an Old Bailey hearing.

Michael Adebolajo, 28, and Michael Adebowale, 22, appeared at a scheduling hearing via video link from separate rooms in Belmarsh prison, London.

Michael Adebolajo, whose left arm appeared to be in a cast, is also accused of the attempted murder of two police officers and possession of a firearm with intent to cause others to believe that violence would be used.

I get the feeling that arm injury is going to come up again. As far as I can recall he was arrested without incident or injury, so that would indicate an "accident" in custody. I'm pretty sure this guy was taken to the police station made entirely out of stairs and sharp corners.

[Cain]

Bump

Yes, consider the source, but...

The Security Services are facing demands from MPs to answer 'deeply troubling' claims that they left one of Lee Rigby's murderers free to kill by helping him escape jail overseas.

MPs have been told by senior Kenyan officials they wanted to lock up Michael Adebolajo for terrorism offences when he was caught trying to join a notorious Islamist group.

But it is claimed that MI5 intervened and insisted Adebolajo be set free.

He was allowed to return to Britain, and last year he mowed down and hacked to death the soldier outside Army barracks in Woolwich, South-East London.

This would not be unheard of, and is in fact almost exactly from the FBI playbook.

And we also have to ask how many times this needs to happen before "we assisted the wrong guy" doesn't cut it anymore, that the stupidity and incompetence explanations are not sufficient and we need to start considering ulterior motives for constantly springing terrorists free from custody, for covering up for them, taking them off watch lists and helping them avoid scrutiny.

Because another country had a revolving door for terrorists going to prison, and that country was Italy.